Written
by Mathew Naismith
I
was recently invited to join a Google community titled, "The Peace Makers",
I immediately posted the following. Before I get into this, ask yourself, can
you bring the love back within a family in discord before creating peace
first? The world in discord around us is
no different.
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I'm not sure what anyone else thinks on
here but I think we need to focus more on peace than love.
Love is too ambiguous because it could also mean the love of greed, love of killing, love of abuse, love of pain. Love, for a lot of people, relates to pain where's peace relates to what it directly states.
Love is too ambiguous because it could also mean the love of greed, love of killing, love of abuse, love of pain. Love, for a lot of people, relates to pain where's peace relates to what it directly states.
Reply
Isn't
peace the result of love?
My
Reply
Not at all, the need for peace
automatically creates love within the action of peace, however, love does not
automatically bring peace within itself.
Let's say I love to dominate my wife,
where is the peace in that?
Let's say I love being a warrior? Where is
the peace in that?
Now, if a husband who loves to dominate,
dominate when in peace?
Can a warrior still love being a warrior
when in peace?
There are many people in the world who
love raping children, what kind of peace has this created?
How many people love the feel of power and
controlling others, is this automatically creating peace? Quite the opposite of
course.
Don't make the
mistake and think this kind of love isn't as passionate as a truer sense of
love, in actuality it's more potent and life changing mainly because we exist
in a 3rd dimension. This kind of passionate love is about a huge amount of
motion, the 3rd dimension is primarily of motion, this is why this kind of
passionate love has always dominated us in the 3rd dimension.
Can we sit and just pray for love and
peace within a 3rd dimension primarily of motion? The answer to this question
is obvious.
To bring peace to the world, we need to
stop thinking love will bring peace to the world when only a true sense of
peace will bring love to the world.
Please don't be offended by my way of
perceiving, it's too obvious to me that love does not automatically bring peace
but peace automatically brings love. In all, we need to focus more on peace
than love, especially considering love will come automatically in the
expression of the motion of peace.
Reply
The essence of love
is peace in it's purest form. Thanks for this thought provoking post.+Mathew Naismith
My
Reply
Very well stated, too many people think
the other way around, "the essence of peace is love in it's purest
form". There is a huge different especially considering that love within
it's motion is ambiguous to say the least. Peace automatically creates love,
love does not automatically create peace.
Reply
Thank
you for the invitation! I am at peace with all things around me through my
acceptance of those things around me!
My
Reply
Indeed , it's all about peace bringing
love to the world, not love bringing peace to the world especially when we
consider that many people have a passionate love of power and money over peace.
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I also
posted the following on this community
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What brought around the protesting of the
Vietnam war? Most people would state love and then peace when it was the other
way around. War brought a need for peace that then created a sense of love, it
was a need of peace that automatically created love, not the other way around.
What occurred when the soldiers came home
from the Vietnam war, the people who put love before peace abused these
soldiers, however, the people who put peace before love, didn't abuse these
soldiers, the reason lies in that peace before love, this allows peace to
automatically create love. Within this motion, the sense of love is more
sincere. These so called loving peaceful people who attacked these soldiers,
loved hating war/conflict, of course this love created conflict not peace and
love. We are once again making the same old mistakes, how many times have I
been attacked by these so called loving people?
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We
exist within a dimension that is primarily about motion, this means for any
true and real change to take effect, a lot of motion needs to be expressed. We
are not going to make any real changes while sitting around praying, chanting,
meditating, for love and peace. This would be fine if we existed in a dimension
that is far less about motion but we don't.
Consider this, how long would have the Vietnam war continued for if we
all just sat around praying for peace? The Vietnam war ended when it did
because people of peace and love took action, they expressed a surmountable
amount of motion. I used the word surmountable here for a very good reason.
We
also have the idea that the one hundred (100) monkey theory will work as well,
peace and love starts from one and eventually a hundred, it will then overcome
all other motions and expressions. If we were all monkeys this would fine as it
did for one monkey starting off cleaning sweet potatoes, but were not, we have
a huge amount of controlling egos to contend with. You might have a hundred
monkeys that are of peace and love, but in opposition, you also have another
thousand monkeys for every hundred monkeys.
Consider
this, if all these monkey's did was sit and think/pray of cleaning these
potatoes, would have the chain reaction of cleaning these potatoes started? For
some reason a self-proclaimed intelligent consciousness thinks it would have!!
However
in saying all this, motion creates more motion but it's all to do in how we
express motion that makes the difference. Could you imagine if the people
protesting about the Vietnam war tried to create peace from love, no amount of
this kind of motion would have worked. If it wouldn't have worked then, why
would it work now, considering we are still existing in a 3rd dimension that is
highly motional?
It's
obvious it's not working, how many people are in protest about what is
occurring in Palestine
How
many people in the world were deplored over the Chinese running over their own
people in tanks? Basically the whole world, now how many people are deplored about
far more horrific events occurring in Palestine
There
is supposed to be all these people talking and expressing unconditional love,
it's really a huge laugh and totally fake/false when you consider the outrage
of the Chinese incident, that lasted a very short time, compared the what is
and has been occurring in Palestine
Now
consider this, would this unconditional love be obvious within it's falseness
if this love was created from peace in the first place? It's very unlikely
because peace isn't ambiguous like love is. Peace has no boundaries or biases
but love obviously does, it's peace that creates unconditional love, not love
that creates unconditional love, this is very obvious within it's present
expressions.
The
discussion on this community is continuing, the following is in response from
me to further replies from other people.
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So what you are saying that someone who is
not peaceful within, can express a true sense of love to create peace within,
very unlikely.
A true sense of love can only be felt when
in peace in some sense, it's this peace within that determines the love we
express, not the other way around as you are clearly stating.
This is exactly why we see people chopping
off heads who have a love of their beliefs, this is a true sense of love if you
like to believe it or not. Are you going to judge otherwise? Good luck with
this because all this kind of judgement will do is cause more conflict, not
less.
Get rid of the peace within side you and
see how much love you have left......I worked in the welfare arena twice over
in my life, once you bring peace back within a family unit, love usually
automatically is recreated but you think otherwise. Try bringing love within a
family of discord before creating peace.
Love clearly does not come before peace,
this is evident but so many people think otherwise and we wonder why the world
is getting worse!!.
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For
anyone interested, here is the address for the peace makers Google community.
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