Showing posts with label Illusions. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Illusions. Show all posts

Saturday 27 December 2014

Time, Infinite Possibilities?


Written by Mathew Naismith

This seems to be coming up a fair bit for me at present, because time is of infinite possibilities is time an illusion? This isn’t an easy question to answer mainly because it’s all to do in how we perceive time. As the reply I received below shows, we need to define time and timelessness however this isn't easy defining what time and timelessness define. Hopefully the following might help with this a little.
      

Reply by Piper Night
Perhaps the question is how we define time & timelessness. If you consider that all time is folded into the one moment of now then illusion and reality are juxtaposed to create the imagined reality of the group consciousness. All things are infinitely possible here.


The following wasn’t my reply to Piper Night but a statement I made on a spiritually based science site on this same topic.


Most of us depict time as a starting and ending point, this is because what energies form is usually transitory. Another way to depict time is through distance, this again is created through the interactions of various energies forming form to give us one point of origin to another, the expanding universe is a good example off this.

The universe itself is transitory within it’s form but like everything else this is due to various energies creating form, so is time defined by form or by these various energies that give form it’s form?

To me this depends on how we define time, form seams to create time so therefore time is governed by form however this form was created from an infinite energy source that can’t be destroyed just reformed, would not time then be governed by infinite possibilities instead of just form? This of course would make time and everything created from time infinite not transitory in a real sense. The illusion is to think time is transitory, yes the forms that time create change but that is all they are doing, there not being destroyed at all.    

It’s funny to think that high profile spiritual gurus think time is an illusion when the illusion is thinking time is transitory!!  No I don’t have any proof of this but to me it’s something to consider, we are not just this form but primarily the energy of this form, thinking we are just this form gives us the illusion that time is an illusion.

Spiritual gurus know we are not just this form however they still believe time is an illusion, this doesn’t make sense!! In my mind we really do need to perceive time as being infinite not transitory, it’s the way we perceive time that is an illusion not time itself.  Time is really defined by these energies reforming time and time again, it’s infinite.   


It is obvious that energy reforms over and over again, our past lives are a good example of this, we are this energy that reforms over and over again which makes us infinite. Now time is defined by these energies reforming and interacting between each other, are these reforming of infinite energies transitory therefore making these energies also an illusion?

These infinite energies are certainly not illusions because they create form plus they are infinite not transitory. This to me would make the form they form not a true illusion because all what this form is, is infinite energy.  The delusion, as opposed to illusion, is to think we are not this infinite energy to start with because we are still defining time as a starting and ending point when this infinite energy reforms. When this infinite energy reforms this gives us time, this reforming of this infinite energy doesn’t make time an illusion unless we think we are not this infinite energy but just of the form of time.


It’s funny to think time and timelessness are both infinite, timelessness is depicted as the stillness of this infinite energy and time the movement or interactions of this infinite energy, either way they are still of an infinite energy source most of us call God or the source.    

Wednesday 24 December 2014

Permanency and Illusions


Written by Mathew Naismith

I had some insightful replies to my last post I feel I needed to share with you today, it’s just a little sad that most of the times I don’t receive a reply back to my replies.


By perceiving through the perception of time, illusions exist because we perceive time itself to be an illusion and why not, we are certainly ignorant to all we are in time because all we are isn’t this ignorance we live our lives by. The point I would like to make in this post is we can only perceive the existence of illusion in time not timeliness, a state we deem as our natural state, illusions just can’t exit in our natural state of timeliness as I will try to explain further.     

Reply
Illusion doesn’t mean it isn't real. What it means is that it isn't permanent. 

My Reply
It really depends on the perspective.

If we look at it the way you perceive it, yes everything that isn't permanent, eternal and infinite, is an illusion, however if we look at illusions being real or not, there are no true illusions just illusions of illusions.

There is a problem with permanency, because time is perceived as an illusion as well because it's not permanent, that would mean timelessness is only real and permanent not time. If everything that is real is only of this timelessness, everything real is also permanent; this also includes this reality because everything has always existed within this timeless state which includes this reality and time itself.

For this reality not to be an illusion it can’t be of time but it is, so realties of time are an illusion even though they are real, this is questionable. This would mean parts of consciousness are an illusion which gives us once again duality which isn’t supposed to be real because it’s not permanent.

What we are doing by perceiving that everything that isn’t permanent is an illusion is separating consciousness into it’s dual forms giving us duality again. To me there is no such thing as true duality even though it seems that way in our ignorant states of consciousness of time.

The real illusion is thinking that time separates everything into duality; this is brought about by our ignorance. The only thing that can produce illusions is ignorance; you cannot produce or see illusions if one is truly aware and one can only be truly aware when they see everything of consciousness exists in some way, not if one is only of pure awareness or pure ignorance but being aware that everything of consciousness exists.

It’s funny to think time is giving us the perception of illusions but time is also supposed to be an illusion, on the other hand timelessness can’t be an illusion because everything has always existed in this timeless state, it’s always been permanent and in this state we can’t perceive illusions because everything is permanent. We really do need to stop thinking in time and start thinking in timelessness as well I believe. What I am saying is ignorance has always exited so is also permanent, so any state of ignorance can’t possibly be an illusion.

So in all yes your quite correct, anything that isn’t permanent is an illusion but nothing of consciousness is actually temporary, not really!!


The following is another reply I received from another person concerning the same post.

Reply
We are real and the world is real, but the bodily identification of self is an illusion.

There are no higher and lower selves, only a real self that is extremely subtle and therefore subject to mistaken identification.

My Reply
Indeed, it's how we identify with anything of time that defines an illusion. We look at the body as being created then it dies, it no longer exists so it’s not permanent therefor it's an illusion.

What we don't do is look at the human body as transforming from one energy source to another, no matter what the energy used to create the body and mind, this energy only changes, it never truly dies.

The way we look at times gives us an illusion that the body just dies, that's it but that isn't really the case at all, the energy of the body continues to go on in different forms. Looking at our whole existence through the perception of time is what gives us illusions, this doesn’t occur when we do the same while looking at our whole existence through the perception of timeliness, illusions just don’t exist within this state. 

I agree, there is no true higher self, only to an ignorant consciousness can there be a higher self however to identify with this real self, we need to at times refer to this as a higher self. In a sense it is a higher self because it’s more aware than our ignorant self.  

We just perceive in time and when we do this, we only see or perceive energy forms and sources that have a starting and ending point when such energy is infinite within it’s existence. We still only perceive in time which give us illusions.


So in all illusions do indeed exist and yes if we think this human state is all we are that is indeed an illusion but only while we are perceiving in time.  When we perceive through timelessness illusions just don’t exist, they can’t, this is due to being aware that everything of consciousness does indeed exist in some way.

Let’s look at it this way, an illusion is a source of energy otherwise we wouldn’t be aware of these illusions, energy itself is infinite which makes these illusions permanent therefore they are not true illusions. When we think only in time, these illusion become real illusions, they are not illusion of illusions because nothing in time is perceived as being of permanence. Timelessness however tells us that everything that exists is an energy source so nothing is truly an illusion, just because an energy source changes form doesn’t make this energy form an illusion.


Indeed we are not all we perceive in time, while we are only perceiving in time, this makes time an illusion, what I am saying in timelessness this isn’t the case because everything exists from an eternal/permanent energy source therefore nothing can be a true illusion in this timeless state.          

Friday 14 November 2014

Time within Timelessness


Written by Mathew Naismith

This discussion about time and consciousness seems to be coming up where ever I go, like a good internet friend said to me, we can’t discuss this enough because we know so little about time, timelessness and consciousness beyond human concepts.  The funny thing is we agree to disagree on these subjects as we both have our own views, this however doesn’t stop us from voicing our views as it shouldn’t of anyone.

Time: The human concept of time is of a measurement either it be of a 24hr time, a distance between two objects or of a duration of the existence of something like a human being or a universe for instance, this is the concept that humans have of time. This concept of time can’t possibly exist within a consciousness without time, a timeless consciousness, mainly because time can’t exist within a consciousness not influenced by time; it’s a purely timeless consciousness. Now this is where I throw a spanner in the works in regards to time not being able to exist within a timeless consciousness, consciousness is an expression of time no matter what consciousness it is. Yes this includes this timeless consciousness but how?

First of all we need to change our human concept of time; it is no longer a measurement of some kind but a conscious realisation, an awareness of being/existing. Time is basically a consciousness being aware of it’s own existence and at times it needs to express such consciousness in a human concept of time of measurement which gives rise to whatever creation is needed for a consciousness to become aware of itself.  

Real time = all consciousness’s (God’s consciousness) + awareness

Human concept of time = human consciousness + a measurement of a kind + ignorance

Illusions: It has come up that consciousness itself is also an illusion, if this is the case this would make this timeless consciousness unaware and quite ignorant of itself even though when we enter into this timeless consciousness we feel we become awareness itself. This makes sense to why time is an illusion to some people, if consciousness itself is an illusion time would certainly have to be an illusion. This however doesn’t make sense to when we enter into this timeless conscious state of awareness, if consciousness doesn’t exist neither does awareness so what is this awareness we feel, is this not real?

A consciousness can’t exist without it being aware and the more aware we become the more conscious we become, they certainly to me go hand in hand, you can’t have one without the other so if one’s an illusion so must the other.  The problem I see is we are confused between the human concept of time and real time. The human concept of time is an illusion if we looked at it from a timeless perspective because there is no distance between anything of consciousness in this conscious state of timelessness; this isn’t the same if we looked at time through a human time perspective. There is certainly a distance between any objects of time within a consciousness of time; this however isn’t the case while in a conscious state of timelessness.

While in a timeless state of consciousness, we are obviously going to be ignorant to time because we are in a timeless state, this is my mind shouldn’t make time an illusion just because we are ignorant to time while in this timeless state.

Now if this timelessness isn’t a consciousness because consciousness is also an illusion, it must be nothingness, a nothingness that is totally unaware, it’s like the Never Ending Story when nothingness destroys all of what is. I cannot see this timeless state of nothingness being of total ignorance when we can feel like we are awareness itself when in this obvious state of timelessness.

You can see what we are doing here; we are taking the human concept of time, not real time, with us into a state of timeless consciousness. The problem is, in this timeless consciousness there is no distance so of course we are going to perceive time and consciousness are an illusion.  

Perceive: It is very hard to get away from the human concept of time even when in a timeless state of consciousness or absolute nothingness, this is because we are conditioned to not just perceive this way but to feel this way especially when we come back from such a timeless state of consciousness.  While in this timeless state of consciousness, we will only remember what we are able to perceive so if we perceive in a human way, that is what we will remember, it is impossible to remember anything past what we can perceive.  Yes while in this timeless state we feel we have remembered everything we have experienced in this state of consciousness but we haven’t.  This is very much like our dreams, how many of us remember every little detail of all our dreams? You know why we can’t; it’s the way we perceive in the first place!! To us everything has got to be of our own perception of normality and reasoning, anything beyond this we won’t remember thus we will most often misinterpret our dreams. Going in a state of timeless consciousness to me is very much the same; it’s just another conscious state we can enter into like our dreams.

What I don’t think we realise is consciousness as a whole is of real time and timelessness. No, this timeless state isn’t of the human perception of time but it’s still of a consciousness of real time. What I am saying is all consciousness, either it be of time or timelessness, is made up out of real time and timelessness. Yes, the more ignorant one is of the other the less we will be able to perceive like the other, this makes sense, but we need in my mind to be aware of this.  

All we need to do is be aware that real time represents consciousness itself not just a measurement of a kind and that to be truly conscious, one needs to perceive in both time and a timeless state of consciousness without judging the other an illusion. Judging anything as an illusion is very much a human concept of understanding which only allows us to perceive in a human way. Consciousness as a whole has no such boundaries therefore no set concepts and perceptions, nothing can ever be a true illusion in one sense or another.   


One more thing, you cannot imagine anything that is not a part of this whole consciousness in one way or another so perceiving something is an illusion isn’t altogether incorrect either, it can only be incorrect or correct within a certain perception. The trick is to perceive past your own perception and don’t ever think this perception is it; this God’s consciousness is far vaster than that!! 

Friday 7 November 2014

Realities of Time, an Illusion or Not?


Written by Mathew Naismith

I didn’t really want to touch on this subject again however, recent discussions with others on this subject has impelled me to write about this subject once again. First of all it matters not to me if it’s real or not, all I am doing is living in the present moment, if at times this reality feels real so be it and if not so be it.  

If we just consider the present moment, this reality has to be an illusion because there is only the present moment; there is no time in the present moment because it’s only about the present with no past or future.   The other thing to consider however  is, no matter what we are experiencing or expressing it’s still of this timeless consciousness, it might be only parts of this consciousness that we are expressing at any moment in time but it’s still a part of this consciousness, this means this reality can’t be a true illusion. To be a true illusion this illusion would have to be no part of us, it would have to be something we have no connectedness too, this is not the case within time because everything of time is a part of us because it’s still a part of this timeless consciousness.

This timeless consciousness represents a whole consciousness, it is not fragmented or separated in any way to itself, it’s whole. Time on the other hand, our present reality, is of a fragmented consciousness, it’s certainly not whole, this means we cannot express consciousness in a whole way, we can only express this timeless whole consciousness in parts within time. The question is, does this make this reality or any reality of time an illusion?  It certainly does to a certain extent, it is never who we are as a whole, a whole consciousness however it’s still in parts of this timeless whole consciousness therefore realties of time can never be a true illusion. If I cut off my hand from my whole self is that hand no longer my hand, it’s an illusion because it’s no longer a part of me. If I reconnected the hand to my arm again, does this make the hand no longer an illusion because it’s again a physical part of me? The point is the hand is always a part of you; it’s never not a part of you so it can never be an illusion even after once severed from your whole body!!  

So when you separate one part of a whole consciousness, does this make this part of a whole consciousness an illusion? Not to the whole conscious self like the hand to the whole human physical self isn’t an illusion once severed however, if the severed hand thought this is all I am that would be an illusion.  

So what are we doing when we judged realities of time an illusion, are we judging as the hand or are we judging as the whole self, the whole conscious self? We are of course only judging as the severed hand and not the whole self, this is where I think we are misperceiving when we judged time is just an illusion, we are judging from the severed hand point of view not from the whole self.   

If the hand is no longer aware of it’s whole self, it will think this is all I am when it’s not, this is the illusion. We are actually no different to the severed hand because of our disconnectedness to the whole consciousness of timelessness.  The illusion again is thinking this is all I am. Now let’s look at this through the eyes of the whole self, just because parts of my whole self is being expressed in time this doesn’t mean it’s no longer a part of me therefore an illusion.  

We are obviously still looking at our whole self through the eyes of the severed hand otherwise we wouldn’t and couldn’t judge time as being just an illusion.

I had a recent vision of my whole conscious self within timelessness looking through a window observing my fragmented self in time, there is nothing unusual about this however, my fragmented conscious self within time was also observing my whole self within it’s timeless conscious state. For me this was an unusual vision.

Even though I was being the observer from both time and timeless states of consciousness, there was no separation except for the glass window. The glass window represented the separation of consciousness’s of time and timelessness that was all; they were still connected especially through the observation of each other.  Neither one nor the other seemed like an illusion to me.

We are trying to look through the window through this fragmented consciousness of time and observing our whole self thus judged time as being just of an illusion like the severed hand. What we haven’t learnt to do yet , at the same present moment, is observe ourselves from this non-fragmented consciousness of timelessness, in other words we are only looking at ourselves through one side of the window when there are two sides of the window to look and observe ourselves through. If this whole consciousness only existed within timelessness, we wouldn’t have a window but to me this window obviously does exist between this timeless state of consciousness and this consciousness of time.  The window doesn’t stop us from connecting or observing because through observing we connect.  We were never really disconnected but only through our non-observation of consciousness within time and timelessness because no matter what consciousness becomes it’s still consciousness. 




Appendage: It would seem I need to express this differently, I will use the expression higher and lower self instead of consciousness of timelessness and time. The higher self is represented by the whole body and the lower self is represented by the severed hand, the severed hand being of ignorance to it’s higher self until it becomes aware of the higher self.   

Higher self = the whole body + awareness + timeless consciousness
Lower self = the severed hand + ignorance + consciousness of time

The lower self is the hand which has been severed from the main whole body, this is represented by the human species consciousness which is usually ignorant to it’s higher self. When we only perceive through the hand, the lower self, the lower self thinks this is all I am, this is my whole self  until it becomes aware of it’s higher self, this is where the perception of the illusion comes into it. At this stage we are only looking at the higher self through the lower self’s awareness, the severed hand.  

Now let’s look at this through the perspective of the higher self. The higher self is aware of our lower consciousness self which is represented by the severed hand, is this lower consciousness, like the severed hand, no longer a part of this whole consciousness because it’s fragmented or separated from the higher conscious self?  As the severed hand is to us, the lower consciousness is still a part of this higher consciousness, at the higher consciousness level the higher consciousness doesn’t perceive the lower consciousness as being an illusion but the lower consciousness does once it becomes aware of it’s higher self.  In my mind we really should be aware of this.

The present moment is in relation to timelessness, a consciousness of timelessness, how do we relate the present moment in a consciousness of time?  The concept of the present moment doesn’t work in time because time is about a past and future and not just about the present moment.  All of a sudden we have become aware of our higher self and realised that there is indeed a consciousness of just the present moment without a past or future, this is the consciousness of timelessness, our higher selves.  At this stage we are still just perceiving through our lower consciousness thus we have perceived that this higher self is our true selves which brings us to the conclusion that the lower self must be just an illusion. 

Now the concept of the present moment doesn’t work in time so what we have done is judge that time must be an illusion for it to work, this concept is totally disregarding that all consciousness is connected and is one of the same no matter how fragmented the consciousness is especially in time, it’s still consciousness no matter how fragmented it becomes.  Now the higher self knows that the present moment only works in a consciousness of timelessness, our higher state of consciousness, it doesn’t judged one part of consciousness as being an illusion because it’s fragmented through time.  The lower also self needs to believe it’s an illusion because it’s of this higher self, this to me sounds slightly ego controlled.  The higher self on the other hand accepts it too is of a lower consciousness; it doesn’t have to egoistically believe that a more ignorant consciousness is an illusion. 


We have now become aware of our higher selves, what I believe we need to do now is perceive through this higher self as well as the lower conscious self without judging the lower or higher self as being of a lesser value than the other, the higher self doesn’t judge this way at all, this is why I don’t like explaining myself by using higher and lower explanations.  There is no true higher or lower consciousness; one consciousness is just of time and the other of timelessness.   

Monday 3 November 2014

What is an Illusion?


Written by Mathew Naismith

First one has to look at how one has defined of what is an illusion and what’s not. Believe it or not I have just defined how we define an illusion, defining what is an illusion or not has everything to do with comparing one to another.  Take conscious state of awareness of time and timelessness for example, how do we know when we are in a timeless state of consciousness if we didn’t have another state of consciousness to compare it with? How do we know when we are asleep? We compare this state of consciousness or unconsciousness to another state of consciousness, in this case it’s an awaken state to an unawakened state. Within this comparison we become aware of when we are asleep or not.

Now to define any state of conscious awareness we need a comparison like from a sleeping state to an awoken state of consciousness, in our awakened state we see everything being of our dreams as being unreal, an illusion, do we while in this sleeping state define everything within our dreams as being an illusion? No, we are however more likely to define everything within our awoken state as being an illusion while asleep. Now this depends on how aware one is within any conscious state if we are going to compare and label anything not of our present state of consciousness as being of an illusion or not.  

For anyone who is only aware of time, time is going to be and feel real to them, timelessness is the illusion, would this not also be the case for anyone only aware of a timeless state of conscious awareness?  To me it’s obvious, of course it would.  What if I was also aware of time while in a timeless state of consciousness, in other words being aware of time within a timeless state, would time then be defined as being an illusion?  

Let’s ask a similar question using a different scenario, when I become aware of an awoken state while I’m asleep, do I then define my awoken state as being an illusion? As soon as I become aware of my awoken state in my dreams, I for some reason don’t define this awoken state of consciousness as being an illusion but on the other hand when awake, I define my dreams as being unreal, an illusion.

While only accepting a particular state of consciousness, all other consciousness’s are going to seem unreal, an illusion, this is because I have compared one conscious state to another to define what is real and what isn’t while only aware and accepting of one conscious state. I have defined this while only being aware and accepting of one consciousness, what if I was aware of another consciousness like while asleep I’m aware of my usual awoken state of consciousness?  While in a timeless state of consciousness, most of us are totally unaware of time, now let’s compare this to how many of us are aware of our awoken state when asleep?  The only time we can be aware of our awoken state while asleep is when we are lucid dreaming or having some kind of OBE, how many of us are aware of our lucid dreams, how many of us are aware of our dreams period?

    
Now relate this scenario to when we are in a totally timeless consciousness, how many of us are aware of any other kind of consciousness like time for instance? When we become aware of any other consciousness, these consciousness’s are obviously going to seem like an illusion through comparing one to the other because we are not accepting of any other consciousness but why?  

Being only aware and accepting of my dreaming state is like being only aware and accepting of my timeless state of consciousness, each state is a different state of consciousness but it’s still consciousness.

But we become awareness itself within this timeless state of consciousness, what else is there but awareness itself? First of all how do we define when we become awareness itself, what have we compared this state of awareness with?  To a lesser state of awareness like in time, so if time is so unaware to this feeling of being awareness itself, even though it’s not aware of the consciousness of time, it’s got to be an illusion. This is saying anything of a lesser awareness is an illusion, so anything of a lesser illusion to this feeling of being awareness itself is an illusion!!    

So to define what isn’t or is an illusion has to do with how consciously aware a certain consciousness is. This would mean an ant or a snake to me is an illusion, so if I came across a deadly snake on my path, I can just step over it or on it because it’s an illusion as it’s less aware than I.  I have now defined what is an illusion by comparing that I am more aware therefore less of an illusion than an ant or a snake!!   

This of course doesn’t work for the main reason it doesn’t matter what consciousness we are talking about it’s still consciousness. I really can’t believe we are still comparing one consciousness with another and defining what is or isn’t an illusion. The question is, are a lot of us aware of time within a timeless state of conscious awareness like are a lot of us aware of lucid dreaming while asleep?  We all lucid dream and experience OBE’s but how many of us are aware of this and because we are unaware of this, does this make lucid dreaming and OBE’s an illusion? To a lot of people unaware of this, yes. To me this is no different to when we are in this timeless state.

To me we need to move forward from this old consciousness of thinking everything else not of this feeling of awareness itself is an illusion, it has served it’s purpose of making us aware of a more aware consciousness, I think we need to move on from this. It’s funny though, we deem everything else not of this feeling of being consciousness itself as an illusion, the funny thing is, we needed these lesser aware consciousness’s to become aware in the first place of awareness itself but only through comparing one consciousness with another.  Who is truly more aware, the teacher or the student?  In this case the teacher being the lesser aware teaching the student about itself, the teacher and the student are but one, one consciousness no matter how unaware or aware the other seems.     


Friday 31 October 2014

The Consciousness of Time and Timelessness


Written by Mathew Naismith

Sorry everyone, it would seem I haven’t explained myself very well in regards to my last post titled, Time, the Mother of all Creation, so I will attempt to elaborate a little more about what I am referring too in relation to time.

Time = man’s motional awareness, a consciousness of time


Timelessness = pure motionless awareness, a consciousness of timelessness 

I’m not talking about a man made time but a consciousness, a consciousness that changes the stillness of the consciousness of timelessness through various motions. Time, which is also a consciousness, allows this still consciousness of timelessness to react and interact with itself which is what gives us creations of one kind or another. The universe is a good example of this interaction and movement of this still pure consciousness within time, in other words the push and pull effect of time created the universe and everything else within this universe.

To me man has misinterpreted what time is and is about, it’s not about a measurement but a consciousness that creates forms from this timeless still consciousness.  The question is, is this still pure consciousness of timelessness who we truly are? I would be a fool to say no because to me it is however does this make everything of time an illusion? I would be a fool to say yes for the main reason, everything we are aware of and experiencing is a part of us, this means time is also a part of us therefor it exists.  No matter what consciousness it is, I believe no consciousness can experience what it’s not a part of, it just couldn’t be aware of something it’s not a part of.  

In timelessness there is no time, everything is motionless. In this state of consciousness we are not aware of time so in this state time is an illusion because it clearly doesn’t exist.  To many people in time timeliness is the illusion, the point is, which illusion is the true illusion? For most of us while in timelessness we are ignorant to time and for most of us again while in time we are ignorant to timeliness.  Just because we are unaware or ignorant to either a consciousness of time or timelessness, does this make time or timelessness an illusion?  

I was in a timeless state, while I was in this timeless state I became aware of time, this isn’t an easy thing to do and I suppose to a lot of people who believe time is an illusion would want to believe I was having a delusional episode, which is of course what the ego wants to believe.  

How hard is it for people in time, who are unaware of timelessness, to believe there is a timeless conscious state of existence?  I would have to say at least half the people I converse with at any given time, now how many people, while having experienced a timeless state of consciousness, believe that time doesn’t exist, it’s an illusion?  The illusion is actually of the illusion itself; it’s an illusion of an illusion!!

While in a timeless state of consciousness, try to become aware of time, this isn’t easy because this timeless state of consciousness hinders one from doing this. What happens while in a consciousness of time, is it easy to become aware of timelessness while in time? For some people, becoming truly aware of timelessness can take a lifetime; they might know of a timeless state of consciousness but are they truly aware of this consciousness?  It is just as hard to become aware of time again while in a timeless state of consciousness, this is because timeless consciousness hinders one to become aware of anything beyond a timeless state.  What does a consciousness of time hinder us from becoming aware of? Timeliness as timeliness hinders us from becoming aware of anything beyond this timelessness while in this timeless state!!  

It really comes down to a balance, being aware, while either in time or timelessness, that time and timelessness are not illusions, but while in time or timelessness, being aware that either conscious state can and quite often do hinder us from being aware of anything else but a consciousness of time or timelessness.  


Yes it’s very tricky and yes we can be so easily fooled, it comes down to balance, balancing out one conscious state with another and at the same time trying to not be duped that one conscious state is the be and end all over all other conscious states.  In a timeless we learn that nothing is above or below anything else so why do we believe this timeless state is the be and end all? Because that is exactly what this timeless state dupes us to feel as time dupes us to feel time is all we are!!  The thing to remember, whatever you are aware of and experiencing/expressing is of consciousness and is a part of you either it be of time or timelessness.     

Thursday 13 February 2014

Spirituality- A Fragmented Concept


Written by Mathew Naismith

I was nagged repeatedly in a number of dreams last night to write about the fragmentations of spirituality, I never thought, until last night, that spirituality has been one of the most fragmenting ideologies man has taken on. I should mention here, writing about this topic never entered my head until my drams last night so it wasn’t on my mind before going to sleep.  I do think however spirituality can be very collective if we used it properly.

While in conversation with non-spiritually aware people, many hypocritical points of spiritual ideology come forth like the ego is bad in some way but one mustn’t judge or thou shalt not kill but an eye for an eye is OK. For starters if we looked at how many religions are out there you can get a good idea how fragmented spirituality is & new age spirituality is no different. Some concepts denounce the ego all together & others accept the ego to one extent or another, spirituality seems to be fragmented in one way or another.  The way spirituality is so fragmentising & hypocritical it’s no wonder non-spiritually aware people don’t want to take it on & this is before we consider blind faith & fear based ideological concepts.

One can take on certain spiritual practices like meditation or visualisation instead of taking on an actual spiritual ideology which seems to be what is happening at present however as soon as we take on denouncing the ego in some way we are assisting in the fragmentation of mankind. It seems so logical to denounce anything that seems unbecoming in some way to us but in doing this we are doing quite the opposite of what spirituality is also about, acceptance. If one is unaccepting in any way we are fragmented. 

To get around this what some people have done is to believe that anything of the ego is an illusion, if the ego is of illusions unaccepting the illusion of the ego can only denote collectiveness not fragmentation. The illusions themselves are fragmentising so unaccepting & denouncing anything of the ego has to be of collectiveness, hmmmm!!!

As explained in past posts, I don’t believe we do live in an illusion, the reason we want to believe this is to escape our present reality for some reason. The illusion is, we are not aware of our whole being, that’s all. What is so collective & of oneness when we denounce anything that is unbecoming to us as being an illusion, we seem to pick & choose whatever we want to call an illusion. Is it not more egotistical to desire to be of higher stature than in a lowly stature?  Calling what we are at present an illusion is egotistical to me because we want to believe so badly we are something grandiose. This is something else that irks non-spiritually aware people. Putting oneself above others less aware does seem to be a common occurrence in spirituality these days which obviously denotes egotism.

To me nothing in existence can be without it being a part of consciousness itself even so called illusions & all the nasty unbecoming things, yes we are higher beings but we are also lower beings. But again we want to egotistically think we are not also of a lower stature so we call realties like this one an illusion, makes perfect logical sense to me!! What is logical in saying we are of higher & lower stature in our true state of consciousness?  Man’s logic doesn’t come into it because man’s logic is flawed by his lack of conscious awareness, yes it seems more logic to think we are one or the other because that is what we desire but it’s actually both & all the above at the same time. Consciousness itself doesn’t judge one stature being above another; it’s just different to another when in existence in time. Yes we want to humanly & logically believe we are just this higher being but what has consciousness itself deemed to be higher or lower when there is no judgment? We are consciousness itself in all forms of being which to me is far more acceptable than being just this grandiose higher self.


The acceptance of being all of what consciousness is, not just parts of it that we desire to just be, is more to do with collectiveness. The desire to be just of this grandiose stature is to me so fragmenting & egotistical, it’s not collective at all even though logically it seems that way.      

Wednesday 16 October 2013

The Illusion of illusions


Written by Mathew Naismith

Reedited: I had to put a further supplement in at the end of the post to explain myself a little clearer as a number of people didn’t quite get the gist of what I’m trying to say here.

I thought I would share with you a conversation between me & another bloke on various subjects to do with spirituality; Robbiesan is quite an accomplished spiritually aware person in my mind.    


Hi Mathew. You know, the other night I had to LOL. I imagined a ping pong match with you and I. Serve: "Absolute truth!" return "No Absolute truth". But, at this point we were just having fun. Eventually laughed and threw the paddles in the air, and sat down for a beer. 

Yeah, that's it. There is so much that is possible. I too learned "mind bad" and "ego bad", which would eventually conflict with other sources of information that say to include all Self and do your best to understand and live it. There are simply too many stories of selves who do the impossible, simply meaning—defying conventional beliefs. That is why I am so adamant about weeding my own garden, and looking at each believe to see if it allows more of me to be, or becomes limiting. After spending many years unlearning (thanks Yoda!!)...you know what I mean.

From my own inner journey, I had such struggle because while I was trying to love and accept myself, I still held subconscious beliefs that were reverse polarity. Once I changed that, meaning "ego, you are not a bad thing at all.." well, that changed. Feeling much better. That is why it's so important to walk our own paths, and choose what really resonates with us, but yet, look deeper, to be sure of which aspects of us are considering something a truth.

I picked up a great book, which is exactly about all of this.
A Seth Book: The Nature of Personal Reality. <-- You really gotta read this. Right up your alley Mat.

I just picked up recently, like last week. It goes into so much more detail, but confirms what I have come to understand. Nothing is actually real. What we call real is but an illusion. We are creating with each thought and feeling, each choice. Conscious is one thing, shadow (ego) is another, spirit yet another, however all part of the same package. Great book. I really do recommend reading this to everyone, especially you Mathew to assist you upon your path.

And, hey it's all good brother. My approach is simply checking things out, experimenting, confirming. If any beliefs need to change, then I do so accordingly. I really am a "if it makes sense and resonates to the core of my being, I will pursue it." Just that. Once upon a time I was more of a stubborn little sod, but now prefer to hold beliefs that I can experience and confirm, and also of course, what is allowing to be all of me. Keeping it simple, which sometimes does not lend itself to all out intellectual conversations.

PS I talk to the Universe every day. I ask for stuff. I state stuff. I give thanks. In the case of the ego, I say "Universe, I release my old beliefs about ego being bad. I fully embrace my ego and allow it to be configured as my true self. We are at One. (meaning aspects at One, rather than divided, stuggling)" Stuff like that: what I do choose to experience. Try it. The Universe is awareness as well, and can work with you directly once properly open to it. Here's another example I was experimenting with. I say "I look no older that a very healthy 30yrs." Recently met some people who I hadn't seen for over 10years (I am turning 45 shortly) and they were amazed, literally saying "OMG, you don't look like you aged a day!! What's your secret." I kinda joked a bit, but truth is I simply choose to believe it.

Love,
Robbie


G'day Robbiesan

Haha...love it & yes the beer as well.[wink]

Unlearning takes a lot of reprogramming & defragging & many hours work. I was told numerous times in my early teens not to read or study too much in any one ideology, I now know why & it still took many hours of hard work to unlearn. I think some people need a lot of help in unlearning from what they have learnt over the years.

Someone else told me about the Seth book a while ago. Yes I’m allowed to read now because I have my own mind set not someone else’s, no defragging needed.  

I’m not into saying what we are experiencing is an illusion, every time I think illusions a big fat no comes into my head. The illusion is thinking this is all we are, what we are experiencing is only a small part of ourselves, we are not physical being but on the other hand we are.  Everything is of pure consciousness & because this pure consciousness isn’t of time everything has always existed including what we are experiencing in physical life however it’s only always existed in pure conscious form not in physical form. We are now experiencing pure consciousness in physical form & to do this we needed time.  Time has always existed as well but as pure consciousness like everything else.

The illusion is we are not just this physical form, we are pure consciousness however the experiences we are getting in physical form have always existed as pure consciousness, they have always existed because pure consciousness isn’t of time & if it’s not of time everything we could imagine has always existed but only in pure conscious form until now.   It would seem by experiencing this pure consciousness in physical form has given us the idea these physical experiences are delusional but it’s not.  

This sounds lame but I keep getting a big fat no all the time when the question of illusions enters my thoughts.

Yes I change my views & beliefs, my blogs a good example of this. Life of knowledge is like stepping stones, you start from point (A) & go from there not missing any steps along the way otherwise you will become unbalanced & possibly fall. One bit of knowledge always leads to another & to another & so on it goes making each stone you have passed over null & void towards your journey but if you miss a stone all hell break loose.         

Being truly connected peacefully can keep one looking & feeling young, I’m fifty yrs old & most people don’t think I am fifty, well most of the times anyway. At times I feel a hundred & fifty only because I’m playing the game which I don’t mind doing believe it or not.

Love
Mathew

Ps I’m amazed at how many blokes these days hug each other, even some of the oldies are doing this out in public, things are a-changing.

The reply form Robbiesan is going to be interesting to say the least.

http://www.spiritboard.net/showflat.pl?Cat=&Board=anything&Number=119742&part=2#Post119803 


Supplement:  

Mathew

The issue of illusions is complex. IMHO there are no illusions, only things that are not what we think they are at first.  For example, the proposition that time is an illusion is very widespread. In terms of this post, one could argue that time is an illusion, but it is a real illusion. The illusion really exists.  A better way to put it would be to say, Time is not what we think iut is. 

Precisely cosmic rapture, it’s a bit of a paradox, time exists but time is also an illusion because it’s not all we are so the illusion exists but only in time. Time indeed is not what we think it is just because we think this is all there is, we tend to look at time as just a measurement but it’s much more, to what it is I’m not sure but what I understand is nothing can be created without time.

Someone else had trouble understanding this so I put it another way: Everything is pure consciousness & because this pure consciousness isn't of time everything has always existed however not in a physical way just in pure consciousness.

This is like our own consciousness, we can think something but it doesn't become physical until we put it into action.

This is what we are doing in physical realities like this one, we are putting the pure consciousness's thought into physical form instead of just thinking about it but it doesn't make it an illusion in my mind. 

To pure consciousness time is the creator like our physical bodies create our thoughts, it’s not they actually create our thoughts but our thoughts become created by our physicality just like time creates the pure consciousness’s thoughts. The thing is just because pure consciousness is being created in physical form doesn’t make it all it is, that is the illusion!!

Not many people actually understood this post but you got it spot on.      

Monday 14 October 2013

The Delusions of Spirituality


Written by Mathew Naismith

Delusions: I was talking to a bloke recently about oneness, enlightenment & wisdom & we disagreed with each other on our own evaluations of such things. This bloke seemed to get upset after a while as he said a few things he really shouldn’t have said. This same bloke said he has had experiences of being of awareness itself. I know for sure that if anyone experienced such things they wouldn’t be lashing out at others in any way because this kind of experience is life changing in its totality.  A person who has experienced such occurrences would smile within themselves & say something wise using very few words. There is a huge difference to being of awareness to just feeling of being of awareness, was this delusional? We all go through delusional episodes while becoming spiritually aware that’s just part of it but we don’t like to egotistically acknowledge such occurrences.

There are spiritualists in India who do lash out at people physically but these people are spiritualists & live their lives totally in a spiritualistic reality not in a consumerist materialistic reality. Why do these spiritualists lash out? To become disconnected from their spiritualistic state of consciousness for a few moments as it’s pretty daunting being in a deep spiritual mode all the time for a human being. This is going to sound strange but if I had a choice I wouldn’t become spiritually aware, I would have liked to have stayed ignorant of such awareness but after experiencing even one enlightened experience it does change one’s life somewhat for good. Why do we become spiritually aware? In my case it was helping dilute the hardships I was going through at the time & it did work, a lot of people today are doing exactly the same thing, it’s helping to dilute the hardships & aggressiveness of the world but what is actually behind this attraction to spiritualism? Ego, we wish to better our lives instead of staying humble & accepting of what we are experiencing.  Here we are denouncing the ego on one hand but on the other hand we are using the ego to better ourselves in some way.   If we think we have dropped the ego we are deluding ourselves. To be a true spiritualist is to be humble & accepting in every way, completely egoless.    


Illusions: The concept in thinking this reality is just an illusion nothing more worries me, we started off with the concept of many Gods & Goddesses & then we got the true concept in my mind of oneness under one conscious source (God) but now we have the concept that everything we are experiencing is an illusion which represents separateness again, we have gone back to the concept of many & varied forms of God's & Goddesses but in a different way.

We have many realities thus many separate illusions but it is also said these illusions came from many minds not one mind as in one God. In this concept, each reality of illusions has been created by a separate creator (God) but there are many realities therefore many God's & Goddesses.

The reason we have taken on this concept of illusions is because we are still trying to find out who we are & where we come from, why do we have to be something & come from somewhere?  This is human logical thinking that everything has it's place, reason to be & a starting & ending point but why can't it just be? Everything we are experiencing has always existed because we are talking about the eternal which isn’t dictated to by time, the eternal is of no time & starting or ending point, God (one mind) just is.

The eternal God (source) isn’t of time therefore illusions don’t exist but neither do realities, wrong or right, starting point or ending point & so on so if they don’t exist what are we experiencing, it must be an illusion? The paradox is illusions don’t exist either, it just is but being logically minded people we can’t accept this. So thinking in logical form to find substance & reasoning is it one mind therefore one illusion so it’s still an illusion? No because everything is a part of that one mind & anything that one mind can think of exists. Where not talking about a mind of fantasies & uncontrollable emotions but a calm collective mind here, we tend to keep making the same mistake that everything has to think like us plus we are talking about a universal mind of no time. Time gives us illusions & realities, wrong & rights, starting point & ending point & so on which gives us diversity however, this is the paradox, because no time exists as well there was no starting point with the creation of time, it always existed as well. Yes this is saying illusions have always existed as well which leads us to the cruncher, when you have seemingly two opposites coexisting at the same time they cancel each other out so in fact neither illusion nor realities truly exist however in time they can because we separate them in realities of time.  As long as we only think in time instead of the eternal we will have separateness & illusions.


To get to a true spiritualist state of awareness in human form we need to just let it be within our own quietness, don’t try not to think just think in quietness & within this quietness you will be told what you need to know not know what you desire to know.  It just is!! 

Monday 7 October 2013

Our Perception Are not an illusion Including States of Oneness



Written by Mathew Naismith

The following reply of mine was in response to a reply I received on a post I titled Something to be aware of spiritually which I inserted on a site called IONS, I felt I needed to share this with you today.



G'day Ros

Thanks for responding Ros.

Most people seem to want a real reality, it's like they seem to want to perceive a starting & an end point or that we are oneness in our true state nothing else, nothing could be further from the truth. This is so human to want this it's not funny, it's all emotionally driven even when we are in certain deep states of consciousness it's still emotionally driven. Yes if we perceive these things to be so, so shall they be however I’m not sure if it’s wise for everyone to know anything else other than their own perception of things so is it these perceptions of ours that is the illusion?  Just because it’s only our perception of things doesn’t make it an illusion which also includes our oneness states of consciousness.

Nothing can exist without it already being a part of consciousness; this includes our thoughts as well. It’s impossible for us to imagine anything that isn’t already apart of consciousness however what is different is the actual physical experiences we get from consciousness, it’s like mixing & matching or mismatching in relation to our reality.

This comes down to duality & non-duality coexisting in the same space & time but of course in certain realities space & time doesn’t really exist as we think they would. We use our logical human minds to think, how could duality & non-duality coexists at the same time, my question is why not? Why does things have to conform to our way of logically thinking? What a lot of us don’t know is there is more than one way to think logically especially when we look at the rest of existence or even this one universe.

The thing with different energy sources getting together is we think there is only two choices, if we are not resisting we must be accepting each other’s energies in harmony but we don’t realise we neither have to be accepting nor resisting, just be.  But of course being emotional humans we need a directive to give us direction, we must be going somewhere or we must be something but the thing is we don’t.  



So does this perception of our true selves, being of pure oneness, irrelevant because again it’s only our perception of this & is this an illusion?  It has relevance because we can see we need to amend things from centuries of abuse which include our souls as well & not just in reference to our physicality. We are taught through various practices to delve into the universal consciousness & abstract anything which is going to help us amend our misdeeds, feeling all that we are is oneness & love is a part of this, it’s but one of many tools. The feeling at one would seem to be an illusion because it’s only a very small portion of who we really are but it’s not. Any perception we have is real even if it’s only a small part of the universal consciousness. Let’s separate a hand from our arm, is the hand no longer a hand because it’s not a part of our body any longer? It’s still a hand & it’s still a part of us even though we have separated this hand from our whole self, just because it’s only a part of our whole self doesn’t make it an illusion. Now look at the universal consciousness as being the whole of ourselves, if we separate one part of this consciousness does it make it no longer real?  The hand is a portion of our whole self & is only a perception of what we perceive in this reality which doesn’t make it an illusion; it’s just not our whole self, that’s all. The real illusion is thinking this is all we are which includes feeling at one when in certain states of conscious awareness. We are everything we know & perceive & much much more!! 

Saturday 21 September 2013

The Illusion of Time & Space/Physicality


Written by Mathew Naismith

When in a oneness conscious state we see this reality being an illusion because we feel that this oneness state is who we truly are not this state of duality. Duality of course refers to time & non-duality (oneness) of no time & space believe it or not; however time & space has always existed for the main reason when in a state of no time when was time created? Time couldn’t have been created like with everything else because with no time you don’t have a starting or end point so this means that time always existed & if time always existed so did duality however in these oneness states, states of duality feel like an illusion because they are not of this oneness so we presume anything not of this oneness to be an illusion. There is also another seducing factor in this that gives us the perception of duality being of an illusion, God/creative source or consciousness. This source is of no time because it always was obviously so this has to be our true state/being!!!

The problem with this is when did duality start to exist in a conscious state/reality of no time & even space? Duality has obviously always existed as well right beside non-duality, non-duality (God) didn’t create duality (time) as it always existed as of everything however physicality itself seems to us to be an illusion & actually it is in a sense. So is this now saying duality is an illusion? No, the real illusion is thinking that physicality is all there is. By experiencing duality physicality seems to have been created in this process so this is why physicality seems to us to be the illusion, it was created by us to experience the consciousness’s knowing not just knowing of the knowing however this isn’t saying that duality is an illusion. We tend to lump duality with physicality automatically together but it’s not because we must remember nothing is new or was created within non-duality (no time).

So this all seems to be referring to anything that was created by no time (God) has to be an illusion excluding duality (time & space) but that isn’t quite true either.   Yes I believe physicality was created like anything in time & space because you can only create in time & space so physicality has to obviously be an illusion but only while one is in conscious states of duality. When we, for long periods of time, experience conscious states of non-duality (oneness) we see a different picture especially when we drop all human/non-human emotions, looking at physicality in this way we actually see that physicality, as of everything, always existed however the big difference is the physical experiences are new. Everything existed in conscious knowing even physicality but not in physical form just in its conscious form. We have a preconceived idea that to have physicality one has to be of a physical world as we know it but that’s not true, we only perceive this because that is all we understand consciously at this point in time as a species.  

What this is saying is the actual physical experiences that we get from physicality is new because it was created by time & space but physicality/duality itself always existed within conscious states of no time & space. Because we still perceive in time & space, especially in a oneness states,  if we are emotional we will separate time & space from no time & space, we think they can’t possibly coexist at the same TIME. We are obviously still relating to time so we are still perceiving time exists while in these oneness states but if we go deep enough you will find time really doesn't exist but it does in the same breath. When we experience these oneness states of no time nothing is of duality so therefore we perceive that all else has to be of an illusion but illusion are of time so in fact illusions can’t exist either. This is saying our preconceived idea of an illusion is the illusion however in no time (non-dualities) illusions can’t exist, only in time (duality) can illusions exist. Why are illusions only of time & space (duality)? Illusions only exist if we have an opposite like reality & when we talk about opposites we are talking about duality & duality denotes time. This is saying we are never in a true oneness state if we are still thinking of illusions.


It is extremely difficult for any of us to perceive outside time & space, our whole perception of everything is influenced by our perception of time & space & human emotions, it’s these human emotions that also give us preconceived ideas brought on by our desire to rid ourselves of the harmful & uncomfortable attributes of what time & space give us, we then call what we no longer desire an illusion especially while experiencing oneness conscious states even if we don’t think or feel this to be the case emotionally. When we start to feel more at one it is so emotionally easy to call anything else from this feeling of oneness an illusion for the main reason it's so peaceful but of course as explained illusion can't possibly exist in a true oneness state. If you are still thinking illusions exist or anything else of duality/time & space you’re not truly at one, detach yourself from duality & go deeper & in this deepness you will find duality can exist but only in realities of duality/ time & space not in no time & space (non-duality).
    
   

Thursday 12 September 2013

Something to Be Aware of Spiritually part 2


Written by Mathew Naismith

I’ve had some interesting responses to my recent post titled Something to Be Aware of Spiritually on other internet sites so I thought I would share them here on my blog.

Mike Holm
For every truely enlightened person how many others are not? The very systems of gov we live in go against enlightenment

My reply:
This is the fundamental problem Mike, we think there’s a problem so we try to fix it & inadvertently manifest more of what we are trying to fix. The more we try to counteract something the more real & extreme that reality is going to be, we are actually creating more of what we are trying to rid ourselves of & the world the way it is today reflects this.

By seeing a problem in the first place we are actually creating a problem or opposing force, be accepting thus less conflictive & believe it or not things will change automatically. We create through our perception; our perception has created this world the way it is at this moment because we can’t, while in this 3rd dimensional thinking process, perceive anything more like the ego for example. We see the ego as being negative in some way so that is all we will perceive thus create.

There are very few truly enlightened people Mike, to be truly enlightened one would have to accept all for what it is, not many spiritually aware people are doing this as they are either trying to denounce the ego & escape the so called illusion or both.  This world isn’t or doesn’t have to be as bad as we perceive believe it or not!!  


Matthew T.
My, my, I love your perception in the holographic mind of ours, all what we think and observe is based on what we can accept as sensible or reasonable, this says that a lot because what we see as something that is there and us needing to fix it it will continue giving us the idea we need to fix something, when we realize, we are understanding it is all that we accept and therefore we end doing things that are not there because we are trying to accomplish something but we are doing them because we know the goal is already there we just know it is more important to live out through the achievement than try to achieve it, or we will always have a reason as to why some one has to do this or must understand this.  Anyways, I love your post, also tell me if you understood all that I written just now?  Have a nice time naw! ~:-)


Mathew Naismith
+Matthew T. The more we try to fix it the more it becomes reality which is quite obvious in my mind & yes you make perfect sense, obviously I did as well to some extent.

It's not easy putting quite different thoughts/feelings & perspectives into words.

I preach/tutor acceptance but a lot of people don't read all what I have to say on this matter because they think I'm actually talking about accepting the world for what it is, to a point I am but acceptance is the key to true harmony & eventually the world will change without forcing it to change through disdain.

In acceptance we have no disdain or opposites opposing & everything levels out automatically. :-)   

I feel because of the 3rd dimensional thinking we are still looking at things in disdain & expecting a positive outcome, this is an illusion because it won’t happen, for ourselves as individual’s yes we will feel better but where there is one reaction another opposing reaction is created which is quite evident in the way the world is going today so what is the answer? Look at everything as a perception or how we imagine it to be, now for a positive thinking person you will automatically see a different perception to what we are brought up or conditioned to perceive. We will no longer look at the ego as just a negative human trait or this reality an illusion that we must escape from but look at everything in a totally more accepting way, acceptance doesn’t mean we should accept all the chaos & mayhem but at least we are no longer opposing it & believe it or not our reality will change according to our newly found perception, it is that easy!!


I go too far with acceptance as I love acting out the ego in many ways as it’s all a part of consciousness to be experienced however I also am aware we can’t keep going the way we are because it’s obviously going to end up quite bad for this species. Acceptance changes things from within where’s an opposing force only adds to these things causing more chaos not less!!