Wednesday, 3 December 2014
Written by Mathew Naismith
I would first like to mention that the following discussion wasn’t altogether friendly, sadly enough, but it did bring forth a few views that I think should be noted.
This discussion is about power and control but it’s also about how two different perspectives can come up with two totally different answers, how we live is certainly all to do with the way we perceive. Now a lot of us are becoming spiritually aware, we are using different perspectives, instead of just using a human perspective we are now also using a spiritual perceptive, this at times can give us opposing views to others and even ourselves, I think we all need to be aware of this. Another thing I think we need to be aware of is, the more aware we become the more we are changing, this can make it quite difficult in relating to others who aren’t changing. Try to be patient with these people who are obviously finding it hard to change, we must remember, we are the one’s changing and they are the ones who are truly having a hard time of it with the changes and with us changing.
Mathew - again we will, I suppose, have to agree to disagree. You make many judgments about power. I understand your disagreement with how many use it; but that does not make power itself evil. I understand that you do not like control; however, as Sunil also stated power and control are different things. By your standards the Divine is evil and wrong and controlling - which I do not find to be true; this being because the divine is powerful - by what you are saying then the Divine is controlling and evil because of being powerful. Seeking power is also different than being powerful - most that are seeking power are also not actually seeking power, but they are seeking control. You mention Hitler - he was not powerful; but he was very controlling. He was controlling because he was not powerful. The same with the Middle East - as a matter of fact where we see control there is not power; but the opposite a sense of being powerless. By your definition then I would say most spiritual teachings are also wrong? Repeatedly we find the Divine and Spiritual teachings ask us to stand in true power of the Divine and be powerful Divine beings - be as the Divine which is powerful. However, they also mention that we are not to seek power for the sake of controlling others. Here again it is not the power but the control that would be sought; which again control comes from where people are powerless.
You also mention about chaos not being spiritual; and yet that is exactly how the universe was created, out of chaos. Chaos does have many aspects to it that you associate with power; however, it is different from power. The divine does not see all of these things as "right" or "wrong" but each with it's own value. This is also how I choose to see things. Yes, there are people that use them for things that are not pleasant; but that does not make the particular thing that way. I have not changed things around to "fit" anything.
Sunil - thank you for re-stating my point and expanding on it, that these are different things.
I'm not sure why you are putting words in my mouth; I didn't say power was just plain evil. In regards to judging power, I don't have to judge, it's a clear observation that power can be extremely destructive, and as I also said, it can be constructive, power is very ambiguous, for me too ambiguous to be used in conjunction with spirituality, there was no mention of evil.
So I'm saying, within your own personal perception, that the divine has to be evil, again were did I mention that power is plain evil, please point it out. You are using the word evil way too much; I think you better look within and not externally.
Why does the divine have to be powerful or empowered? In a human sense this consciousness is powerful but in a spiritualist sense it's not, the reason for this is simple, once you begin to perceive in a spiritual sense as well, all notions of power and control no longer come into thought, this is due to becoming aware that you are one with the divine rather than being humanly separate to the divine.
The biggest problem between you and I is, you seem to be looking at power in a human sense and I’m looking at power in a spiritual sense. Of cause the human self will perceive that a higher consciousness is all powerful, the reason for this is that humans keep themselves separated from this higher self by thinking this exact way, all other higher consciousness has to be all powerful when in fact we are all a part of that higher self. Because humans find it hard to perceive they are of this divineness, a lower form of consciousness, they perceive this divineness has to be all powerful only because this divine consciousness is more aware. Can you see how it’s only a perception that we are not of this divine nature and by thinking this way we are keeping ourselves ignorant and permanently in chaos?
Jesus never wanted to be idolized, you know why? He saw no separation between himself and the rest of the people of the world, what was in him was also in all of us, he wanted us to stop idolising and see ourselves in our true nature, the divine nature. Idolising any power in any higher consciousness is going to keep us right where we are, ignorant to our true nature and in chaos. How many people who have been all about power and control created even more chaos? Jesus was obviously not about power but about oneness, about the oneness of the divine in all of us.
Yes the universe was created out of chaos but it wasn’t just destructive within this chaos was it?
It is quite clear you don’t want to see where I am coming from, I can see where you are coming from but it is obvious you don’t want to see where I am coming from.
One more thing, I also could use other people on here to prove my point but what would be the point unless I wanted to give the ego even more control over my truer self, seriously think on what you have written here!! Don’t worry, I still at times react in the exact same way which of course only creates even more chaos in our lives.
PS In a human sense power and control are different things but in a spiritual sense there not, there is no separation of anything within the divine, this is why the divine consciousness doesn't judge. You are humanly separating everything which in a human perspective is quite normal; this is why humans judge so much, they are into separation not oneness with the divine.
There is quite a big difference between a human perspective and a spiritual perspective, the spiritual perspective can’t see power within itself or anything else because it sees no separation but humans do, this is the human perspective which I think keeps us from our connectedness to the divine within. We are indeed going to go through some rough times while becoming spiritually aware, the main reason for this is we are mixing the human perspective with the spiritual perspective, this can be quite daunting to us but it can be even more daunting for others around us, I think this is worth being aware of. Becoming aware of the differences between humans perspectives and spiritual perspectives will help with the process of becoming spiritually aware I believe, it’s really all to do with becoming awareness itself and this to the human self is quite daunting. Just be caring and patient with the human self and all will be fine in the long run.
Wednesday, 9 July 2014
Written by Mathew Naismith
This is a strange topic for me to right up about, I’m not sure how accurate I’m going to be but I will do my best on what I know and remember about the divine feminine and masculine energies. I thought I would start by inserting a reply I gave to the second link displayed in this post.
I came across someone recently talking up the divine feminine but in the same breath talking down masculine energy. To me the divine feminine energy isn't about talking down anything including the masculine energy, it's nurturing/valuing not neglecting or mistreating in a bias manner and it's certainly not judgmental.
It is obvious that the masculine energy has been abused but it doesn't make the masculine bad in some way just misrepresented by our actions. Yes the masculine has to judge, how else would it know to protect, if a lion was about to attack a child, the masculine energy becomes instantly protective and aggressive. This of course doesn't matter if one is male or female; actually because the female is maternal the female will probably be more aggressive in her protection especially concerning her own children.
I found the following links explained both the divine feminine and masculine energies quite well.
Extract: The Healthy Divine Feminine offers tenderness, wisdom, patience, nurturing, flexibility and fertility. Feminine intuition is one of our most powerful tools for guidance, and we all have it.
The Healthy Divine Masculine is fearless, courageous and loyal. “He” is our guardian protector. When in balance, the masculine protector does no harm. His gentle strength brings harmony and peace to where there was conflict and separation.
Extract: While the Goddess and Divine Feminine movement has allowed for the gradual uprising and recognition of the beauty and sacred connection of the feminine (most often embodied by the female), all too often it is in its own denial of the beauty and benefits that the Spiritualised masculine energy can bring to the party.
I think what some of us are doing is confusing divine energies with Earthly energies, earthly energies aren’t divine energies, they are reprehensive of our physicality where’s the divine are more representative of our heavenly/celestial energies. Some people call these heavenly/celestial energies our spiritual selves but to me all of what’s created by these heavenly/celestial energies is of the spiritual.
Divine energy is heavenly/celestial, everything other than this is earthly or of the physicality of ourselves, these energies are quite different. Earthly energies are noticeably of judgement; they have to be to exist in such a physical reality. I have a view if you judge this reality of being judgemental or wrong /negative in some way you are only expressive of the Earthly feminine/masculine energies and not the divine feminine within. I might be wrong but the divine feminine energy can’t judge for in giving judgement one becomes aggressive, the divine energy isn’t aggressive. The divine feminine energy to me is nurturing of all without judgement.
So what about the divine masculine, is it aggressive therefore judgemental like the Earthly masculine energies? Just like the divine feminine, the divine masculine is somewhat different to the earthly masculine, the divine mescaline judges where’s the earthly masculine can be judgemental. Again there is a big difference between judging and being judgmental, judging can be very constructive like saving a child from drowning or a lion attack or being creative in anyway however being judgemental is seeing a wrong and a right. I have a view, which might not be correct of course, that there is no wrong or rights in the divine. The universe was created through no wrong or rights in mind that is why not all planets are like Earth, if the universe was created through a judgmental view every planet, solar system and galaxies would be the same but it’s not.
The divine judges what will be created but it’s not in judgement on how they will be created because there are no wrong or rights, Jupiter isn’t wrong just because it can’t sustain life as we know it, it’s just a creation with no wrong or rights attached. We are creations from the divine, are any of us wrong or right compared to each other? The divine, either it be of the feminine or masculine energies, is not in judgement of a wrong or right but the earthly feminine and masculine energies can be, they don’t have to be though. It is obvious we have abused our masculine energies but is there a wrong or right in this? To the divine no but to the earthly yes, at the earthly level we are in judgment but again we don’t have to be, this isn’t mandatory just because we are living on an earthly plane.
The divine in all of us isn’t judgemental of a wrong or right, it judges what to create like conceiving children for instance, we judge to have children or not and when we will bring a child into the world but where not being judgemental in this. Being judgmental is like thinking all children are spoilt brats therefore are wrong so we won’t conceive children.
I could be very wrong in this but I see the divine feminine and masculine energies being quite different to our earthly feminine and masculine energies, I think we really need to beware of this difference. The divine does not judge a wrong or right, there are no wrong or rights in the divine energies but of course that is just my opinion.
Tuesday, 17 June 2014
Written by Mathew Naismith
First of all what is infinite wisdom, what is meant by when we say infinite wisdom? From the Cambridge dictionary; used to show that you do not understand why someone has done something and that you think it was a stupid action:
In action: The authorities, in their infinite wisdom, decided to close the advice centre.
Well I’m actually not meaning it exactly in this sense, what I do mean is that wisdom is limitless and eternal so what wisdom could be this limitless and eternal? Some people would say God or the source of all creation and others would say someone who is very knowledgeable especially about most of everything that there is to know about however in my mind neither is exactly true.
Because spirituality is about the collective as a whole, how would we define what is or who is of infinite wisdom and who isn’t? You can’t actually do that without fragmenting the collective and once you have fragmented the collective you are no longer spiritually talking about the collective as a whole because of it’s fragmentation. We could say God is the representative of infinite wisdom but what about the rest of consciousness. By stipulating God is the infinite wisdom of everything within existence, are we still talking about the collective as a whole? No not really because we don’t see ourselves of being of that infinite wisdom, that is wholly and solely of God’s domain however by doing this we are no longer talking about the collective as a whole. The same would be if we were talking about people who are highly knowledgeable; we are still fragmenting the collective. So how do we get away from fragmenting the collective and still pinpoint what is meant by being infinitely wise and in whom is this infinite wisdom referring too?
Before we answer this question, what first of all makes one wise, is it knowledge and experience? In a human sense knowledge and experience would define wisdom, what about in a divine sense, would this be the same? Actually I don’t think so because I don’t believe infinite wisdom is of time therefor wisdom doesn’t come about through knowledge and experience because knowledge and experience are of time, time creates knowledge and experiences. Knowledge and experience just can’t exist without time to gain such knowledge and experience.
So if it’s not knowledge and experience that creates wisdom what could it be? The only thing left is the divine but infinite wisdom can’t be just of the divine because again we are fragmenting the collective; there is no collective as a whole in this so what else could infinite wisdom be referring too? Yes the divine isn’t of time but we are still fragmenting the collective whole.
The infinite wisdom is obviously referring to the whole collective which means you and me as well. How could this be when most of us are noticeably not of this infinite wisdom? Ah but we are, we are just ignorant or unaware of such things that is why anyone who is more knowledgeable than we would seem to us to be infinite in their wisdom. If we are all of this infinite wisdom how come we don’t show it?
There are two reasons for this, one is we think infinite wisdom comes through knowledge and experience and two we are just unaware of our prominence of being infinitely wise, it is actually our divine right, in other words it’s natural to us. Because we only think in time, all wisdom has to come from knowledge and experiences and of course some of it does however infinite wisdom isn’t of time as is of the divine. The problem is we just don’t see ourselves as divine beings so we interact with each other in less than a divine way which is how we created a chaotic reality I feel.
It seems so funny to me we can’t see ourselves as divine beings living unaware of our infinite divine wisdom, if we actually accepted this at the collective level to be true, this reality would change quite dramatically for the betterment of all.
Thursday, 10 April 2014
Written by Mathew Naismith
It would seem our mentality through history has changed very little, we are pretty much doing the same onto others as we did thousands of years ago, warring & slavery of one kind or another are good prime examples of this. You would think by now we would have taken on, as a collective, some of what divine mentality is all about!!
Yes sure we are not burning people at the stake, chopping off hands and feet in most countries or flogging people in public but this has little to do with how our mentality has evolved from these barbaric practices. There are many people today, if they could, would be doing just what they did thousands of years ego which shows how our mentally has changed very little over time. If we are still slaughtering each other for power and greed our mentality hasn’t changed that much at all over how many thousands of years however all's not lost!!
There have been many prophets & enlightened people teaching us some of what divine mentality is so we can save ourselves. This hasn’t failed completely but we still have the minority who only have some kind of awareness of divine mentality.
What is divine mentality?
The teachings of people like Jesus and Buddha are a prime example of divine mentality as of other prophets & alike. We have had the opportunity time and time again to expand past our antiquated mentality collectively but have chosen, on mass, to proceed with our archaic designs. I believe divine mentality is any mentality and awareness beyond our present archaic mentality, the strange thing is human history shows time and time again how groups of people and individuals in the past became aware enough to overcome this archaic mentality. We usually call these people wise.
Now we can say that it’s knowledge that gives these people wisdom but to me that’s not quite correct, you can know all of what is to know and still not know how to use this knowledge, this is where awareness comes into it. Our heightened awareness tells us all of what we know or will ever know comes from the same source however if we are stuck in an archaic mentality we can’t be aware past the knowing of this archaic mentality and we will presume all of what we know comes from human knowledge.
Awareness of more than we know gives us wisdom I feel, this goes along with a quote I wrote recently; “Knowledge is knowing what we are aware of, wisdom is being aware of what we don't know!! “
Divine mentality comes about by being aware of what we don’t know which of course is what is defined as wisdom. I inserted this quote on the thinkers community and it was a big hit, no one argued it’s definition. If we have no realisation of being aware of what we don’t know this denotes the archaic mentality I’m writing about here today however if you have some sense of correctness of this quote you are starting to delve into the divine mentality I feel.
I believe everything come from an intelligent divine consciousness, all we need to do is remember who and what everything is and truly believe it. In the mean time we should try not to idolise in others what we are. People like Jesus and Buddha never wanted to be idolised but listened too to take on some of their divine mentality so we may help ourselves.
We are all divine beings but we will only become aware of this if we take on divine mentality!!
Saturday, 29 March 2014
Written by Mathew Naismith
Becoming spiritually aware can be totally electrifying exciting our emotions to emotions that we never thought existed or could never possibly experience in such a reality. We can feel utter bliss where’s before we felt despair so of course we are going to protect these feelings against anything that remotely threatens such emotions.
What would be the point in becoming spiritually aware through many trials and tribulations to have it squandered away by yet more negativity. At the human level of understanding we are going to avoid this and rightfully so but have you ever asked yourself, “Why are my emotions so electrified?” Most of us will say it’s because of our newly found awareness but that I feel is only partially so. What if we had always lived with these electrifying emotional feelings, would the effects of such occurrences be as compelling and electrifying?
If we didn’t have such a contrasting reality to these electrifying feelings would these feelings be as electrifying? I believe divine beings don’t get such a rush as we do as their emotions are more controlled by being consistently in this state of physical omission. It’s the norm for the divine to feel this electrifying ecstasy so until they come in contact with less aware beings this rush doesn’t seem to exist for them in the same way it does for us. What I feel gives them this rush is less aware people’s reaction to such spiritually induced emotions; they can feel our electrifying reactions to these emotions.
The big question is now, who is really divine to whom and is spiritual awareness all about feeling this electrifying ecstasy? I feel it’s all about feeling this electrifying feelings, that is what makes us aware of the light within in the first place, after this it becomes the norm like a lot of actual spiritualists have obtained to one extent or another. The question is now is, where do these electrifying feelings and this light come from in the first place?
That’s an easy question to answer, from the divine within.
Actual spiritualists don’t get this rush mainly because it’s of the ego unless it has a purpose beyond their desires. They still feel extremely enlightened but it’s different to the actual rush that a less aware person experiences, it’s very similar to a divine entity as it’s a far more controlled emotion mainly because their emotions aren’t driven by the ego.
So what is the difference between an enlightened person and a divine entity?
One still has an issue with the ego and the other hasn’t. A spiritualist knows the ego is always present; it’s all around them for starters however a divine entity doesn’t have this problem, that is what makes them divine I suppose. The divine are able to experience and enjoy these emotional rushes through less aware beings without the threat of the ego becoming controlling again. Yes spiritualists can do this but only to a certain extent, they are quite aware they are not divine or should be aware of such things.
This comes back to the question, who is divine to whom, really? Is it what gives the divine these rushes or is it the divine that gives rushes of electrifying emotions to less aware beings? To answer this clearly we should remember these rushes create pure light that is why they are so emotionally electrifying to us. What gives a light bulb it’s glow, electrifying an element of course, what is above is also below, same principle believe it or not!!
The paradox is, if we didn’t have the divine within we wouldn’t glow however I feel if we didn’t have the lesser aware self the divine wouldn’t glow as it does through lesser aware beings as ourselves. The divine is the electricity and we are the glow, a balance made in heaven believe it or not as they both serve each other.
Please don’t take what I have written here as gospel, it’s not.