Showing posts with label peace. Show all posts
Showing posts with label peace. Show all posts

Sunday, 3 December 2017

Harmony - The Key to Love


Written by Mathew Naismith

This is indeed ironical. I awoke this morning to the understanding of me writing a post about peace and love, being that peace creates a sense of love, not the other way around. Love is simply a natural process of being harmonious. As we quieten the mind, we quieten the disharmony within our mind while at the same time creating a sense of love. Peace/harmony is the key to love.

I wrote the following in a discussion relating to the topic of; what is your core element that determines your way of thinking and being. I wrote faith, in that I have faith that human consciousness will go along with the natural evolution and evolve from it's present consciousness. A lot of people said love but one person simply said peace, I wrote the following in response to this.
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1: Indeed peace because how would one truly be of love if disharmonious? Harmony naturally and automatically brings us a true sense of love, love simply isn't the be and end all as it is treated today.

In the sixties it was peace and love, peace brings love, basically, love is part of the natural process of peace, love is only apart of the process as love derives from peace, not the other way around.

This is like today's perception of light which denotes awareness, as of intelligence, what is awareness void of wisdom; the same is with what is love void of a true sense of peace?

We are today so focused on light and love when light and love are determined by base factors like wisdom and peace. How many people today are focused simply on wisdom and peace? I think the sixties had it more correct than we do today in western spirituality.      

Stating simply peace is perfect, a true sense of spiritual understanding in my mind.

2: Indeed, peace to one person isn't peace to another person. Is a multinational in financial dire-straights at peace? Is a peaceful person at war at peace?

Of course we could say here that a multinational at peace financially isn't very loving but he is, he loves his wealth as much as a spiritual person loves another person. Even a true sense of love is ambiguous it would seem.

We could say that peace is also ambiguous as the peace and love of a multinational and a spiritual person is different. As a multinational is not at peace with being poor, a spiritual person is not at peace in being materialistic or destructive.

Simply, peace, like love, is ambiguous until it becomes true......

3: Of course, peace simply says it all. I go deep so that others have an opportunity to comprehend and understand a true sense of peace and love. Behind love a true sense of peace/harmony resides.

I handle the environment we presently exist in differently, I don't perceive a negative or a positive, it is what it is, as in it just is, void of anything having to be of one thing or another.

My wife and I haven't watched TV for over 9 years now, I do miss the docs though, not the news. The news these days is only of what they want us to be aware of.

It is obvious I needn't have gone deep with you, sorry for that Paul.

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As we become more aware, part of the process of becoming aware is disharmony. We are certainly not going to like or feel comfortable with everything we become aware of; this is until we reach the process of being truly harmonious, not just to the things we desire to be of but to everything.

Humans are more intelligent and aware of their environment than ever, how harmonious is the world today? You see part of the process of becoming more aware is being disharmonious, however, no true sense of love will reside within a reality that is disharmonious.

We then get to a point of process were we only become aware of the things that are harmonious, everything we are disharmonious with are discarded or ignored. You see, when we are harmonious love is able to reside; all we desire at this stage of the process is to be of this love. This is of course quite understandable in regards to our present disharmonious reality.

At this stage of the process we are still in disharmony of the things we have rejected or denounced to simply feel some kind of love. At this stage this is not a true sense of love for there is no true sense of harmony, however, we do feel more loving because we are more at harmony. 

The next part of the process entails us to become wiser with our awareness. As of knowledge or intelligence, awareness void of wisdom is only ever going to be half aware for awareness, as of knowledge and intelligence, needs the guidance of wisdom to know how to use and respond to knowledge, intelligence and awareness.


This part of the process then allows us to be in harmony with everything we become aware of, only in this state can a true sense of harmony therefore love reside. I think that harmony and wisdom are the true building blocks to become truly loving, for only in true harmony can a true sense of love reside. Look at it like building a home for love to reside, without a home to reside in, love can never truly be at peace.......    

Wednesday, 14 September 2016

Wisdom and Philosophy


Written by Mathew Naismith

My wife and I were having breakfast out on our front porch this morning, as usual, and as usual we had birds of various varieties flying about in our garden. I  at one time noticed a fig bird just sitting there as if in contemplation, I then thought how many people actually sit within this same quietness as this fig bird. The fig bird has obviously had it's fill, feeding is motion, and now it's motionless, it's a life of perfect balance and harmony within an environment of motion. However, humans often don't balance out their life of motion with motionlessness, like the fig bird, who lives within it's natural environment not against it.

Motion: What human consciousness seems to have done, is the more motion it's expressive of, the less of this quietness and subsequent wisdom human consciousness became. It's strange, this is sound evidence within our own actions that wisdom is no longer a vital part of our being. While becoming more of motion through knowledge and intelligence, we at the same time destroyed any wisdom that we could find. This knowledgeable intelligent consciousness went out and deliberately destroyed any kind of wisdom that would question it's actions of degradation. Excessive motion on it's own can erode any wisdom a consciousness has, human consciousness went beyond this and deliberately tried to destroy wisdom and any related philosophy/philosopher who actually questions their own actions and beliefs.

It's as if we have gotten to a point in human consciousness, that we no longer question our own actions and beliefs from materialism to spirituality, we will however question other people's actions and beliefs but not our own.

A good example of this is what Kundalni energy experiences can create. We so often perceive that what Kundalini energy flows create, are the be and end all,  huge amount of motional and emotional love being one of these creations. I say creations because love is a motion, it's not motionless, anything of motion is created from another source. It's this source that created this love that is more of a be and end all, not what this energy creates. Materialism is exactly the same, what creates materialism? Degradation, a destruction or transformation of one energy to another form of energy creating a possession.

Before I go on I better put things in a more comprehensible perspective.

Wisdom and philosophy = timelessness + infinite + motionless + peace

Knowledge and intelligence = time + finite + motion + chaos

I should make it clear here that philosophy is a motion, it creates motion, this is how we are able to express this motionless wisdom into a motion thus assisting us to balance out excessive expressions of motion. However, philosophy used and obtained entirely through knowledge and intelligence, would put philosophy under the heading of motion, time, finite and a possible creator of chaos. It's wise to be aware that all motion is a creator of chaos in one way or another, maybe not to you or even someone else, but it's likely to create chaos/destruction to the environment around you in some way. It's wise to be aware that all motion creates a form of chaos in some sense.

It's actually natural for motion to create chaos, it' also natural for motionlessness to create peace. We might think that love, even when created through a Kundalini experience, isn't of this chaos. ask yourself honestly, what is this kind of love doing to people who don't love in the same way? It's causing them chaos and of course they will react or counter-react in accordance to this created chaos. All motion creates a form of chaos within the environment in some way, no matter how much of a be and end all it is, again, it's wise to be aware of this if we truly want to create peace on  Earth.

Foundation of Peace: Human consciousness has also created a most unusual reality, it's probably why so many souls have chosen to experience this kind of reality. We have a consciousness that assumes it's intelligent because of it's own knowledge and technological advancements. We also have this same exact self-deemed intelligent consciousness, expressing more motion than ever, while killing off anything else that would give this consciousness  balance and a  more peaceful existence. If you look back to any created golden age in human history, you will find that wisdom was the primary creator of such an age. Don't get me wrong here, knowledge and intelligence certainly played it's part but it was wisdom that was the foundations of these golden ages.

I am going to make a prophecy here, any nation of people, countrymen or otherwise, that bases their existence on wisdom, will be given an awareness that will protect them from any kind of ignorance. We so often do this on a personal level ourselves, however, what I am talking about here comes deep within the infinite itself. This especially includes protection from aliens who have crashed there transport on Earth. Think on this, how would a truly highly intelligent and spiritually connected being, crash their transport in any circumstances? It just couldn't occur.

Being wise doesn't mean we should just sit within our natural environment and do nothing else either, we are in a reality of motion and emotions, we are supposed to create motion, for an example, accumulating wealth. Accumulating wealth takes excessive amounts of motion, this amount of motion will often deplete or erode our own wisdom, there is nothing wrong or right in this. What we often don't do in this case is balance out this excessive motion with motionlessness, wisdom in other words. Everything within our environment is of motion, motion is naturally part of this kind of existence, what human consciousness is to ignorant of, is creating balance within he's own expressions of motion.

Final Thought: What do families, who are highly motional, try to aspire their children to be? Become a doctor or a lawyer for example. In ancient times of golden ages, it was better to aspire one of your chosen children to follow a path of wisdom, how many families do this these days, especially in Western minded countries? For such an intelligent consciousness, it still hasn't worked out why it's still in conflict!! The wealth of a family was measured in the wisdom it beheld, how do we measure wealth today?......


One thing to consider here, a good philosopher will look upon the self as the collective, this means it will in-turn question this collective as it has a right to question itself!!   

Tuesday, 13 September 2016

The Connection - Peace and Philosophy


Written by Mathew Naismith

Not many people can relate peace to philosophy, what is so peaceful with philosophical debates and seemingly endless questioning?

Self-Discovery: First of all, we know that philosophers like Socrates, Rumi, Confucius, Buddha, were constructive towards peace through better understanding of their environment and self-discovery, but do we also know that Jesus was also a philosopher, actually, everyone is a philosopher in their own right. In saying this, not all philosophers are constructive towards peace and better understanding, only philosophers who use wisdom as a base to their philosophy, rather than just knowledge/intelligence, are constructive towards peace.

I don't know of any philosopher who immediately used wisdom as their base for their philosophical views to start with, this only occurred when in self-discovery through interaction within their environment which gave them a better understanding of their environment. Is it wise not to try to understand your environment and other peoples environment? This is why many of these great philosophers, went out into their own and other people's environment, it's this interaction that seems to have given them wisdom.

This interaction with the environment as a whole, wasn't what actually in the end gave them a true sense of wisdom, it gave them a better insight to the external environment which gave them a sense of wisdom but not true wisdom. As of always, it was their inner self-discovery that gave them a true sense of wisdom, as soon as these people went inward into oneself, it was within this that gave them a true sense of wisdom. Basically as always, the answers are within, the external world is only a guide but it's a guide if used correctly. Incorrectly used, it's a deterrent and a creator of anything but peace.

Inner Peace: No philosopher who is onto self-discovery, fixates themself to a certain philosophical view or a certain type of philosophy being the be an end all. Any true philosopher will instruct you to find your own self-discovery, only in this will you find lasting inner peace.

In regards to Confucius and Socrates, these philosophers didn't truly find this inner peace in the end, this was due to failing to influence their environment enough to make any great difference within their own lifetime, only in the years following their demise did this occur. Finding this inner peace isn't the be and end all, if the environment you are in is in chaos, inner peace becomes but an ephemeral pleasure to be experienced, nothing more. As of any great philosopher, they want to encourage the world towards a better way of existing, sadly enough this isn't always accomplished within one lifetime.

I have the understanding that Jesus died in inner peace, knowing that he will make a difference in people's lives in a huge way for a lot of people, sadly, his teachings were corrupted and misused in various ways. Jesus for starters never wanted to be worshiped!!

Infinite Consciousness: No true philosopher will fixate themselves to any kind of ideological view or philosophical practice, this is because wisdom is infinite therefore so is consciousness as it's forever evolving. You see, philosophy isn't an exact science because, as any true philosopher knows, nothing stays the same and that not everything seems as it is even when proven to be so. Strangely, general science, like many religious practices, is fixated to certain perceptions and perspective, in saying this, other forms of science today seem to be breaking down these limitations.  

The main difference between general science and philosophy, is science is based on finite concepts of knowledge and intelligence, however, true philosophy is based on infinite concepts of wisdom. Knowledge gives us the intelligence to perceive their is nothing but a physical reality, wisdom on the other hand tells us there is more than physical realities, this is because wisdom is infinite, there are no limitations with the expressions of wisdom.  Knowledge relies on the five sense, wisdom relies on all senses, used in balance, each will enhance the other. You can see why human consciousness void of wisdom is limited and is limiting it's own consciousness. A limited consciousness is a consciousness of  ignorance, of cause as always, only in ignorance can a consciousness destroy itself, there is no peace to be found in this.


As of always, any true philosopher will attract a huge amount of ridicule, of course such expressions of ridicule states one is on the right path to a true sense of peace. You see, it's not the philosophy that upsets people, it's people's own reaction to philosophy that upsets themselves. Very few people on Earth like to truly look within themselves, this is exactly what philosophy does, within this, we will find true inner peace, remembering, all the answers are within as always.   

Saturday, 10 September 2016

Hope In Peace


Written by Mathew

There is a lot of frustration out there in regards to peace, it's so daunting for people like me observing people in distress on relation to peace, will human consciousness ever holistically be at peace? This question isn't actually appropriate because our present perception is based on our present circumstances which is anything but peaceful. Basically, for every hundred people manifesting for peace, you have a thousand other people manifesting for unrest. For starters, literally millions of people within this reality live off of unrest, it's certainly a strange reality were people live off of unrest!! On top of this, you have groups of people and even whole country of people who will do anything to force there way of existing onto others, peace seems utterly hopeless. When you also consider that restless/unhappy people spend more money, you start to realise how many people rely on an unrestful/unsettled existence.     

It's indeed a strange existence, it's seemingly the only way human consciousness know how to exist, this of course isn't true and this is the point to focus on.

Conscious Unrest: Human consciousness has gotten to the point it knows no other way to exist but in unrest. Human consciousness desperately needs assistance to be in peace, this is obvious but this must happen from within human consciousness itself, however, this doesn't mean we only use human consciousness to desist in existing in unrest. Human conscious is too conditioned to relying on unrest to exist by to help itself from within, this is were perceiving beyond human perceptions comes into it's own.

Perceptions are based on present circumstances, can a mentally ill person who's perceptions are based on their present circumstances, assist themselves from within to perceive beyond their present perceptions based on the illness? Certainly not on their own, they always need an external awareness of  perceptions beyond their present circumstances, human consciousness is no different. Any consciousness that is wholly conditioned to live off of unrest, is unable to assist itself from within, it is obvious it needs external influences to perceive beyond the limitations of only being able to exist in an unsettling way.

Wisdom: In ancient times, human consciousness looked up and aspired to anything pertaining to wisdom, today, human consciousness is based on intelligence instead of wisdom, basically, intelligence has replaced wisdom. The strange thing about human intelligence is that it tries to express intelligence void of wisdom. Human consciousness is also unable to exist in any other way but in unrest, it's certainly as strange intelligence that human consciousness expresses. How would a consciousness that is primarily based on unrest, be able to express any true sense of intelligence?

For a consciousness to create unrest, would also have to be of unrest!!

It's wise to be aware that all perceptions are based on a conditioning of a kind, no perception is flawless, this includes any external perceptions we use to assist in helping human consciousness heal from within. In stating this, there are external perceptions to human conditioned perceptions that are a lot more peaceful than human perceptions. Can we heal human consciousness from within void of any kind of perceptions?  Yes and no.

Human Perceptions: Human consciousness is primarily based on perceptions, actually, human consciousness couldn't exist without these perceptions because human consciousness is of perceiving. Try replacing perceptions with non-perceptions. How is a consciousness, that is primarily base on perceiving by the five senses, going to react by replacing it's whole consciousness with another kind of consciousness that is void of perceptions? Such a consciousness couldn't possibly perceive or accept of being replaced altogether. Are we truly supposed to replace one consciousness with another completely different kind of consciousness to start with?

Try replacing a mentally ills person's consciousness with another consciousness that the mentally ills person's consciousness is unable to perceive in the first place, it's just not going to work. A lot of people are trying to do just this on a collective human scale. It's not healing a consciousness by replacing a consciousness with another consciousness altogether, in actuality, any such actions will create more unrest, not less.

A non-perceiving consciousness isn't supposed to replace human consciousness, it's supposed to help balance out human consciousness. It's like balancing out motion with motionlessness, physical life with spirituality, this balancing will, in my mind, assist heal human consciousness within. This doesn't incorporate us to be more positive over an above deemed negative, all this kind of action will cause is disdain for anything deemed negative. It's funny deeming what is and isn't negative or positive, such judgment is still based purely on one's own perceptions at the time!!

Black and White Mentality: I wrote the following just recently.

What judged a negative a negative?

Strangely enough, a positive judging a negative less worthy than itself.

Why then judge a positive and a negative?

Wouldn't life be simpler and more peaceful if we didn't?

I don't judge myself as being positive or negative these day because I know that such a mentality is based on a judged unworthy, I also know it's based on a particular perception, being that no perception is flawless.

Why then judge a positive and a negative is interesting. Human consciousness has  conditioned itself to judge in this way, basically, human consciousness has conditioned itself to a mentality of black and white, it's what I call a black and white mentality, there has to be a wrong and a right, worthy and less worthy.

You should by this point get a pretty good idea how human consciousness has become based on an existence of unrest, there isn't too much balancing out this unrest in human consciousness these days. There is no way that a consciousness this conditioned to unrest, is able to heal itself from within on it's own. You also should be able to get a good idea of what needs to be done to arrest human consciousness from being primarily based on unrest, an awareness of why human consciousness is so restless is a good start.

It's also wise to be aware that human consciousness is what it is, this means any change to human consciousness has to be within it's perceptions otherwise it's no longer human consciousness. Basically, if you can change a consciousness to another kind of consciousness, it's no longer of it's original state of consciousness, it's something else, humans consciousness stays as human consciousness.

This brings us to journeys and paths: Human consciousness is a journey which many paths can be taken, a good example of this is each person has their own path to follow but while on the human journey of experience. Some paths are like the human journey itself, they are of unrest within  their own unique ways, of course the reason why the human journey is unsettled, is due to many paths of this human journey having a path of un-restfulness. If on the other hand most paths within this human journey was at peace, the human journey itself would reflect this peacefulness. Human consciousness isn't naturally unsettled but this unsettledness is part of human consciousness to be able to be expressed but so is peace.

The answer to changing the human journey is to change the path of each of us to something more peaceful. Change the path, you change the way the journey is being experienced, however, has anyone got the right to change, especially forcefully, other people's paths? The answer is of course no but we can influence people to change their path by giving these people a choice of paths. This is of course done by displaying your own path to others so they may now know they have a choice, in the end however, a person has a right to choose or stay with an unsettled path. If in the end this means human consciousness/journey is to stay unsettled in any sense, so be it. This is exactly why no so called true higher consciousness will interfere with the human journey, it has no right, only untrue consciousness's will do this, it's good to be wised up to this.


Any real change to the human  journey itself, must be made by or through a human, this is why it's a good idea to perceive beyond human perceptions. To begin, try not to become too fixated to human ideologies or practices and know when to move or evolve on from these ideologies and practices. Also, move away from the, very human, mentality of black and white, all this mentality does is add to the unrest.             

Thursday, 1 September 2016

PEACE


Written by Mathew Naismith

The following is another attempt of a poem by me, this poem basically tells of why peace is so hard to obtain and keep. This poem was actually inspired by a Google community based primarily on peace. 

The antiquity of peace
as ancient as it is
is still within us all
being so hard to keep
in these days
you wonder
of it's presence
it's still
it's quiet
it's harmonious
it's tranquil
we wonder
is it still their
within
in-depth
as it is
and we still wonder
of it's presence
as it should be
as peace is
stillness
quietness
harmoniousness
tranquilness
this is
peace
as it is
and we still wonder
the presence of peace
this
is as it should be
anything else
is not peace

~Mathew G~

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Elusive Peace: Peace seems to represent everything that motionlessness or timelessness represents, it's still within it's motionlessness, it's quiet within it's motionlessness, it's harmonious within it's motionlessness and it's tranquil within it's motionlessness. So is peace based on this motionlessness instead of perceived love? 

Love is full of motions because of the emotions behind love, you can't experience love without emotion, try expressing love without causing motion, it's just not going to occur because love is based on emotions which are primarily of motion. Now try expressing a true sense of peace, it's absolutely motionless because this is what peace is primarily based on. Now try finding this peace within a chaotic highly motional dimension, peace seems to not exist anymore because it's motionless, there is so much motion out there that this motionlessness is overwhelmed by excessive extreme motions.

Because we are so desperate to override this highly motional chaos, we will use anything that seems to quell all this motion that is overwhelming peace. We are at present using love, which is highly motional, to quell another highly motional state of existence, basically fighting fire with fire. Fighting fire with fire can be very volatile, especially when the wind turns. What actually occurs when you fight fire with fire? Destruction to save even worse destruction, well, hopefully. Sometimes this is the only way to fight fire but in the end it's the quietness of the fire that actually quells the fire, not fire itself.

Now does this mean we shouldn't use love even in conjunction with peace?

Not at all, it's not the use of love that is giving us problems, it's the way we are using love that is the problem even when used in conjunction with peace.

Peace Creates Love: We first think that peace is created from love when it's the other way around. A good internet friend of mine expressed that inner peace has to be established before a true sense of love can be expressed. It's true, try expressing love when you have no inner peace to start with, any love expressed in this way, can't be possibly true, most often it's proved to be so in the end. Basically, this kind of love is euphoric as it's based on the finite, it's transitory especially when pressed or tested.

Now what about using love in conjunction with peace, even after we have established that it's peace that brings forth love, not the other way around.

Let's firstly look at love and peace, love represents motion, peace represents motionlessness. Considering that all motion is time based, love is of time which means peace is of timelessness as it's of motionlessness. This also means love is of three dimensional aspects while peace is of anything but a three dimensional aspect. We basically have a representation of yin and yang, love and peace.

Love = motion + time + three dimensional + finite + yin

Peace = motionlessness + timelessness + non-third dimensional + infinite + yang

Yes, they represent opposite values to each other, however, they are only opposing opposites when we use them in an imbalanced way. Used in a balanced way, one becomes the other, for this to occur though, we must realise it's peace that creates love, not the other way around. It's obvious many of us are nowhere near realising this, pushing for peace in this way, isn't going to bring peace, this is evident in our present state.

Now what if we used love and peace in a balanced way, will this automatically bring peace and love to the world?

Human Family: No, not when we try to bring love back into a situation that is not peaceful in the first place. Try perceiving the human consciousness (race) as a family unit, this is your family with the surname(last name) of human. Now this family unit is obvious within it's discord, basically, a non-peaceful family unit, as of our own selves that are not at peace. Can we instil love before this family unit is at peace? The answer is no, now consider this, human consciousness is nowhere near at peace but we are still trying to instil love!!

Try instilling love within a family that is in discord, the collective human consciousness as a whole is no different. Certain family members will rebel against such brash actions and justifiably so as is the same with certain members of the human race. Using love and peace in conjunction, doesn't mean we use them at the exact same time either, it means using them in balance overall. We must remember here, it's peace that automatically brings the love back into a family unit, used in unison by the family itself, love and peace within the family becomes infinite.


All we need to do is focus on peace, and love is sure to follow.......Mathew G

Wednesday, 31 August 2016

Love Brings Peace to the World??





Written by Mathew Naismith

I was recently invited to join a Google community titled, "The Peace Makers", I immediately posted the following. Before I get into this, ask yourself, can you bring the love back within a family in discord before creating peace first?  The world in discord around us is no different.  

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I'm not sure what anyone else thinks on here but I think we need to focus more on peace than love. 

Love is too ambiguous because it could also mean the love of greed, love of killing, love of abuse, love of pain. Love, for a lot of people, relates to pain where's peace relates to what it directly states.


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Isn't peace the result of love?

My Reply
Not at all, the need for peace automatically creates love within the action of peace, however, love does not automatically bring peace within itself.

Let's say I love to dominate my wife, where is the peace in that?

Let's say I love being a warrior? Where is the peace in that?

Now, if a husband who loves to dominate, dominate when in peace?

Can a warrior still love being a warrior when in peace?

There are many people in the world who love raping children, what kind of peace has this created?

How many people love the feel of power and controlling others, is this automatically creating peace? Quite the opposite of course.

Don't make the mistake and think this kind of love isn't as passionate as a truer sense of love, in actuality it's more potent and life changing mainly because we exist in a 3rd dimension. This kind of passionate love is about a huge amount of motion, the 3rd dimension is primarily of motion, this is why this kind of passionate love has always dominated us in the 3rd dimension.

Can we sit and just pray for love and peace within a 3rd dimension primarily of motion? The answer to this question is obvious.

To bring peace to the world, we need to stop thinking love will bring peace to the world when only a true sense of peace will bring love to the world.

Please don't be offended by my way of perceiving, it's too obvious to me that love does not automatically bring peace but peace automatically brings love. In all, we need to focus more on peace than love, especially considering love will come automatically in the
expression of the motion of peace.


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The essence of love is peace in it's purest form. Thanks for this thought provoking post.+Mathew Naismith
My Reply
Very well stated, too many people think the other way around, "the essence of peace is love in it's purest form". There is a huge different especially considering that love within it's motion is ambiguous to say the least. Peace automatically creates love, love does not automatically create peace.                 

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Thank you for the invitation! I am at peace with all things around me through my acceptance of those things around me! 

My Reply
Indeed , it's all about peace bringing love to the world, not love bringing peace to the world especially when we consider that many people have a passionate love of power and money over peace.
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I also posted the following on this community
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What brought around the protesting of the Vietnam war? Most people would state love and then peace when it was the other way around. War brought a need for peace that then created a sense of love, it was a need of peace that automatically created love, not the other way around.

What occurred when the soldiers came home from the Vietnam war, the people who put love before peace abused these soldiers, however, the people who put peace before love, didn't abuse these soldiers, the reason lies in that peace before love, this allows peace to automatically create love. Within this motion, the sense of love is more sincere. These so called loving peaceful people who attacked these soldiers, loved hating war/conflict, of course this love created conflict not peace and love. We are once again making the same old mistakes, how many times have I been attacked by these so called loving people?


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We exist within a dimension that is primarily about motion, this means for any true and real change to take effect, a lot of motion needs to be expressed. We are not going to make any real changes while sitting around praying, chanting, meditating, for love and peace. This would be fine if we existed in a dimension that is far less about motion but we don't.  Consider this, how long would have the Vietnam war continued for if we all just sat around praying for peace? The Vietnam war ended when it did because people of peace and love took action, they expressed a surmountable amount of motion. I used the word surmountable here for a very good reason.

We also have the idea that the one hundred (100) monkey theory will work as well, peace and love starts from one and eventually a hundred, it will then overcome all other motions and expressions. If we were all monkeys this would fine as it did for one monkey starting off cleaning sweet potatoes, but were not, we have a huge amount of controlling egos to contend with. You might have a hundred monkeys that are of peace and love, but in opposition, you also have another thousand monkeys for every hundred monkeys.

Consider this, if all these monkey's did was sit and think/pray of cleaning these potatoes, would have the chain reaction of cleaning these potatoes started? For some reason a self-proclaimed intelligent consciousness thinks it would have!!

However in saying all this, motion creates more motion but it's all to do in how we express motion that makes the difference. Could you imagine if the people protesting about the Vietnam war tried to create peace from love, no amount of this kind of motion would have worked. If it wouldn't have worked then, why would it work now, considering we are still existing in a 3rd dimension that is highly motional?

It's obvious it's not working, how many people are in protest about what is occurring in Palestine at this very moment? Where is the true sense of love here? It just doesn't exist because love is primarily put before peace, basically, love is meant to create peace, it is quite obvious this isn't or going to occur for reasons already mentioned in this post.

How many people in the world were deplored over the Chinese running over their own people in tanks? Basically the whole world, now how many people are deplored about far more horrific events occurring in Palestine but by another conquering race of people? So where is this peace that was created from love, it just doesn't exist because peace naturally creates love, not the other way around.

There is supposed to be all these people talking and expressing unconditional love, it's really a huge laugh and totally fake/false when you consider the outrage of the Chinese incident, that lasted a very short time, compared the what is and has been occurring in Palestine for some years now. How many conditions are put on this so called unconditional love? Insurmountable, this is proven within it's own actions and responses.

    
Now consider this, would this unconditional love be obvious within it's falseness if this love was created from peace in the first place? It's very unlikely because peace isn't ambiguous like love is. Peace has no boundaries or biases but love obviously does, it's peace that creates unconditional love, not love that creates unconditional love, this is very obvious within it's present expressions.

The discussion on this community is continuing, the following is in response from me to further replies from other people.  

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So what you are saying that someone who is not peaceful within, can express a true sense of love to create peace within, very unlikely.

A true sense of love can only be felt when in peace in some sense, it's this peace within that determines the love we express, not the other way around as you are clearly stating.

This is exactly why we see people chopping off heads who have a love of their beliefs, this is a true sense of love if you like to believe it or not. Are you going to judge otherwise? Good luck with this because all this kind of judgement will do is cause more conflict, not less.

Get rid of the peace within side you and see how much love you have left......I worked in the welfare arena twice over in my life, once you bring peace back within a family unit, love usually automatically is recreated but you think otherwise. Try bringing love within a family of discord before creating peace.

Love clearly does not come before peace, this is evident but so many people think otherwise and we wonder why the world is getting worse!!.

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For anyone interested, here is the address for the peace makers Google community. 


Thursday, 10 July 2014

True Peace Found in Utter Chaos


Written by Mathew Naismith

I was going to right up on something completely different today but the image above and message took my attention so I thought I would share a few thoughts I have on this.  Peace; it does not mean to be in a place where there is no noise, trouble or hard work. It means to be in the midst of those things and still be calm in your heart.

The following was my reply to this image and the attached message.

Most definitely Rhea, everyone can escape the noise and be in peace but not everyone can obtain peace within the noise, this takes time to master.

I love sitting somewhere noisy and chaotic and imagine I'm a butterfly fluttering around, it's certainly a blessing.

Most people find a quiet place to do this which doesn't take much focus or effort unless you are noisy and chaotic. I find the most noisiest places and focus on being a butterfly or a bird landing on everything around me including people. I must look stupid because at times I have a huge grin on my face especially when I land on other people.


I believe chaos has it’s place, it can teach us to focus more and the more we focus the more connected we become.  I believe this happens with Buddhist monks, the teacher will go around with a paddle and wack the meditating monks with this paddle to teach them to focus more on their connectedness.  Most of us don’t need this distraction to focus more intently, we have modern day life to do this for us and boy doesn’t this hurt at times. J


Yes we could be in judgment of chaos as being bad or negative but chaos is very much like the  Buddhist teacher with the paddle…….. it’s here to teach us to become more focused therefore connected.  I also believe chaos is showing us where we are still disconnected which is a good thing not a bad thing but I suppose that’s just my silly optimistic way I like to look at life.