Showing posts with label suffering. Show all posts
Showing posts with label suffering. Show all posts

Wednesday, 16 April 2014

Spirituality is for the Suffering


Written by Mathew Naismith

I got a rather abrupt & what I thought was a presumptuous reply from my last post, the quickening of consciousness.  Replies like this from the unfaithful & unaware is expected however when I received this reply I had an urge to right up about this for two reasons. One, presuming that spiritually aware people haven’t been abused or have suffered traumatising injuries is very presumptuous; this is very common from non-believers.  Two, spirituality is about releasing this suffering either it be of personal or collective suffering.


Reply

Try telling this to a woman who's had acid thrown in her face for 'dishonouring' her family. Or a child who's been sexually abused. I'm sure they feel really connected to the 'grid' too. So tired of New Age nonsense.


My reply

I'm one of those abused people you talk about here. Crying over spilt milk isn't going to solve anything, trust me. 

Are you one of these abused people?  What happens to a bloke who has had both he’s legs amputated, he can either give up or he can get on with it. I'm getting on with it.

You picked the wrong person to say this too, it’s sad you have no idea what you are talking about however expected from people who are quite unaware obviously.  

Yes I can see how spiritually aware people who talk about love acceptance all the times can seem to others who have had a rough time of it a little ignorant and delusional, this is to be expected however one should never presume before one knows the truth. There are many people who have found solace in spirituality who have gone through the most horrendous times. Yes, spirituality isn’t for everyone but it is there when needed for a lot of people all over the world.  


I can understand non-believers anger towards people who turn these negative into positives in some way, it does sound delusional and ignorant when we are flying high and others are suffering so but what they don’t realise no one really has to suffer more than they have to.  Non-believers just can’t see how helpful and soothing spirituality can be after any trauma once understood correctly.   

Saturday, 14 December 2013

Ego Gone Troppo


Written by Mathew Naismith

This is quite controversial exchange between myself & two others so don’t read on if you have a problem with controversy however this did bring out a few good points in reference to how our own perception is ignorant of other people’s own perception. In true spiritual consciousness there is no right or wrongs however there is a right & wrong within our own personal perceptions.  If we choose to not mix with certain aggressive people we have made judgement & upon this judgement we have our own perception, it’s quite interesting!!  



G'day frequencytuner

I will tell you why you are wrong within your own personal definition of suffering.

For one, whose definition are you defining suffering? Everyone physiologically has their own definition of suffering. before I go on I better tell you I worked in the welfare arena twice over in my 50 yrs, I even had a job in charge of my section without attaining a higher education, that alone should tell you something. The reason I'm telling you this is to inform you I know what I am talking about just in case you think you’re conversing with someone who doesn't know what they are talking about.

This is a true story; there was a young girl who was given a mobile phone from her parents, she absolutely loved it, One day it was stolen the next day she committed suicide. According to your definition of suffering she didn't suffer & this is but the tip of the iceberg. You are obviously measuring & defining suffering physically, mental suffering is much much worse & in fact can induce &/or create physical suffering. This young girl suffered just as much than a starving child in a 3rd world country.

Pain is optional, is it!! Try telling that to a male nurse who split their spine down the middle or someone who can't afford pain killers or someone in the 3rd world countries. Let's look at a soldier on their own with their leg blown off & again this is only the tip of the iceberg.

You see ignorance causing pain to a small number of people but I see uncontrolled knowledge causing much prolonged pain to thousands at a time, the two atomic bombs is a good example of this & again this is but the tip of the iceberg, consumerist materialism is hurting countless others.

I’ve counteracted everything you have said which says what? Suffering is brought on by our own definition or perception, obviously.


Reply Dusty

Re: "I will tell you why you are wrong...."

Statements such as these are truly questionable at best.

They pretend to remove all traces of the subjective experience which in fact embodies all judgment of right and wrong.

If the commenter intention might have been to say, "I will tell you where I BELIEVE you are wrong".
We all must offer for the belief of other's point of view. But this comment makes the assertion of knowing that which is right, in some absolute sense.

Is this not "ego?"


My reply

This is funny, I've obviously upset Dusty a number of times so he's ego is trying any way it can to trip me up, try putting 2+2 together without precise definition & you will end up with a totally incorrect answer.

“I will tell you why you are wrong within your own personal definition of suffering. “ This isn’t even the full sum however if we separate or totally remove one part of the sum we won’t get a true correct answer. This is dirty tactic to say the least & it seems to be common practice with some people sadly enough. Pointing out a particular point is OK but as long as you don’t put all the emphasis on this like Dusty has once again done here.

The whole sum was referring to an obvious wrong or incorrect evaluation based on our own perception without adding up all the numbers; we can’t dictate what everyone is thinking or feeling by our own evaluative perception, this denotes only one part of the sum!!

I call a spade a spade & yes like I have always stated I’m not afraid of expressing the ego, there are no true right or wrongs collectively in spirituality including expressing or even being controlled by the ego.

As I have also stated a number of times, there is a big difference between expressing the ego to being controlled by the ego, very few people who are controlled by the ego don’t realise they are controlled by the ego. I realise the controlling factors of the ego so it’s unlikely I am being controlled by the ego but there is still a small possibility of this. Awareness itself dilutes any effect a controlling ego has on a person; no one wants to be totally controlled if they can help it especially of their mind & this is why spiritually aware people meditate for example which helps dilute the controlling factors of the ego.

Yes I have psychosocial methods learnt through being involved in the welfare arena; I either use aggressive methods or passive methods & at times one after the other always for the benefit of my client. What I noticed from a lot of higher educated people than me is they will use these methods immorally & unethically which is quite obvious on this site however I have always used these methods for the benefit of all & never intentionally for my own benefit.


My adversaries should be able to get something out of this to use against me, their egos couldn’t help themselves!! 

Sunday, 8 December 2013

A Reality Void of Suffering


Written by Mathew Naismith

To most of us it would be utterly impossible to create a reality void of suffering, that is our first mistake because nothing is actually impossible. We should ask ourselves here, what really creates suffering?  Most of us would mention numerous physical & mental causes which seem to have no end but that isn’t really the case at all.  What actually makes us feel we are suffering?  Perception believe it or not for example if everyone in the world couldn’t perceive suffering would we be suffering?  Believe it or not we wouldn’t be.  Are we truly suffering if it’s only a perception/presumption?

 Let’s look at this in a different judgmental way; a child in the west has their Xbox taken from them, are they truly suffering if we compare them to a 3rd world child in hunger? The answer is of course no but they perceive they are now let’s compare this reality to a much more chaotic reality, are we suffering? The answer of course is no. We presume too much because we don’t sit within our quietness enough. Suffering is only in our perception of suffering no matter what we are going through, this concept of course will be quite hard for most people to swallow mainly because our controlling egos tells us otherwise.  

What has the controlling ego got to do with seeing others suffer? What are we doing when we see others suffer? We are actually judging someone else’s suffering compared to ours otherwise you would perceive anyone suffering believe it or not. We should ask ourselves here, what does judgment denote & the answer of course is usually a controlling ego however judgement doesn’t always denote a controlling ego either.  

So making judgement & comparing oneself to someone else who is suffering is this denoting the ego being in control? Yes, for the main reason we see ourselves better off. It’s funny how the controlling ego is so well disguised at times which I have called in past posts the hidden ego.  It is extremely hard for an emotional human being not to allow this to happen, I still today make such judgement however I am now aware of it.  

There is another problem in perceiving suffering, when we perceive such suffering we are actually unintentionally manifesting what we see as suffering, the more suffering we see/feel the more suffering we will perceive & inadvertently create.   Our whole reality is created by our perception, at the moment we are focused on the perception of desires we live for/of desires which supports the current system of existence, consumerist materialism.  If we had no perception of our desires there is no way consumerist materialism could exist & that alone would create quite a different reality to what we have today.   

Using myself as an example again;  I’ve endured a chronic injury since I was 6 yrs old, I am now 50 yrs old & yes this chronic injury also came with chronic pain.  I’ve noticed the only time I am suffering  is when the controlling ego comes into play, I will see other able people & compare them to me & all of a sudden I am suffering , as soon as I make such judgement I’m suffering however when I’m not in judgement I’m not suffering. To an able body person I am suffering but to me I’m not when I’m not in judgement, funny that isn’t it!! This all comes down to perception that can be & most usually is controlled by the controlling ego; it’s the controlling ego that gives us suffering.  It’s extremely hard not to see others less fortunate people as suffering but like I said this is denoting the ego being in control & we know how destructive the ego in control can be.  All we need to do is be aware of the controlling factors of the ego & yes we can create a reality totally void of any suffering if we want to perceive so!!